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To: Godzilla

Does Ukraine send untrained troops to the front line?
There are battles in the war, once again the US picks a fight they will not finish, many people dead, many people suffer. Should not have overthrown the gov in 2014, should not have financed the war against Eastern Ukraine against the Russian citizens of Ukraine. Europe will suffer this winter because of us, how foolish we are.


840 posted on 11/14/2022 6:09:57 PM PST by norsky ( <P><img src=" "width=400"></img> <P> <a href= > </a>)
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To: norsky

Training Ukraine soldiers are far more extensive than most of the Russian conscripts - particularly of the latest round where thousands landed on the front with no training and essentially no equipment. Ukraine established a substantial trained reserves following the 2014 Donetsk and Luhansk invasion, nearly one million iirc.

Some agree with your pre war assessment, others don’t. Neither have bearing on the now and very current reality of war. They are water under the bridge. I don’t waste time with those elements because the now is where it is at.

Unvarnished reality is Ukraine has the advantage and Russia’s three day war is well into its 9th month. In addition to winnin* on the ground, Ukraine has prevented Russian air superiority and is now flying more sorties than Russia. Russias Black Sea fleet has been prevented from launching an amphibious assault against the Odesa region and has lost a number of capitol ships.

Untrained soldiers don’t accomplish that. What happened in 2014 has not changed that, They are the factual reality of the current war - by any objective standard shows Russia is losing.


841 posted on 11/14/2022 6:28:24 PM PST by Godzilla (Never give up, never surrender . . . . . .)
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