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Treating Covid-19: Everyone was wrong about ivermectin
Washington Examiner ^ | 11/18/2021 | Kaylee McGhee White,

Posted on 11/30/2021 6:19:20 PM PST by SeekAndFind

Health officials condemned ivermectin as a useless and even dangerous treatment for COVID-19. The media smeared the well-known and commonly used anti-parasitic drug as a “horse dewormer,” even though it has always been a human medicine as well. They mercilessly mocked people who thought the drug might help them.

But it turns out ivermectin can actually help certain people fight off COVID-19, according to science writer Scott Alexander.

In a lengthy blog post , Alexander took a deep dive into all available studies on ivermectin and whether it works against COVID-19. It’s worth reading in full, but I’ll highlight his main point: Ivermectin does work, albeit indirectly, especially in areas where parasitic and intestinal worms are common.

There’s a reason the most impressive ivermectin studies came from parts of the world where worms are prevalent, he says. Parasites suppress the immune system, making it more difficult for the human body to fight off viruses. Thus, getting rid of worm infections makes it easier for COVID-19 patients to bounce back from the virus.

If Alexander’s hypothesis is correct, he’s also right that everyone who hastily jumped to a conclusion about ivermectin was wrong. Ivermectin is not the COVID-19 cure that some made it out to be, but it’s also not useless in the fight against COVID-19 either. It does have some benefits — they’re just minimal and far less effective than other therapeutics, such as monoclonal antibody treatments.

“Experts” deserve much of the blame for ivermectin disinformation. Most of them refused to entertain the possibility that ivermectin might help COVID-19 patients. I’d be surprised if even one official in the Food and Drug Administration or the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention took the time to evaluate the data like Alexander did before publicly declaring it didn’t work.

It is also worth considering why so many people convinced themselves that ivermectin was a COVID-19 super-drug. Alexander argues that ivermectin fanaticism is connected to anti-vax sentiment in the sense that both are wacky pseudoscience beliefs to which certain people are attracted.

But there’s a much simpler explanation: Many of the same people who were drawn to ivermectin are wary of the COVID-19 vaccines because they are skeptical of the public health consensus in general. They see health officials stressing and, in some cases, mandating vaccination and are repelled by this. They see health officials rejecting ivermectin and other COVID-19 treatments as nonsense and are drawn to them. Their beliefs aren’t so much an embrace of pseudoscience as they are a flat rejection of an authority that has failed them.

Alexander gets at this point here:

In a world where scientists seemed like hostile aliens, I would hesitate to take the vaccine. Again, ivermectin optimism isn’t exactly like vaccine denialism - it’s a less open-and-shut question, you can still make a plausible argument for it. But it’s some of the same people and follows the same dynamics. If we want to make people more willing to get vaccines, or less willing to take ivermectin, we have to make the scientific establishment feel less like an enclave of hostile aliens to half the population.

The problem with this is much of the scientific establishment seems to want to come across as, to borrow Alexander’s phrase, hostile aliens. They don’t care whether the public trust their guidance or not. If they did, it would not have taken a science blogger to get to the bottom of what was happening with ivermectin. The CDC and FDA, the people who literally get paid to research these kinds of things, should have done that months ago.


TOPICS: Health/Medicine; Science; Society
KEYWORDS: anthonyfauci; covid19; covidstooges; ivermectin; ivm; obamacare; vaccinemandates; waronivermectin
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To: SeekAndFind

Scott Alexander is a lefty psychiatrist who likes statistics, who admitted that being for Ivermectin would turn the Establshment against anyone, but yet he thinks he claims he was being objective on which studies he disregarded.


21 posted on 11/30/2021 6:49:39 PM PST by aynrandfreak (Being a Democrat means never having to say you're sorry)
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To: Pajamajan
If you'd like to get your geek on, a fascinating link...

Effect of Ivermectin and Atorvastatin on Nuclear Localization of Importin Alpha and Drug Target Expression Profiling in Host Cells from Nasopharyngeal Swabs of SARS-CoV-2- Positive Patients

22 posted on 11/30/2021 6:51:25 PM PST by mewzilla (Those aren't masks. They're muzzles. )
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To: mass55th; butlerweave

Both HCQ and Ivermectin have safety profiles at about the level of aspirin, and safer than Tylenol.

The demonization of these two drugs was criminal. I believe it caused much illness and death. And there was no reason for it, the drugs are safe as could be.

#CrimesAgainstHumanity

We need Nuremberg 2.0 to teach some people a lesson.


23 posted on 11/30/2021 6:54:31 PM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: SeekAndFind; All

Thank you for referencing that article SeekAndFind. Please note that the following critique is directed at the article and not at you.

The referenced article “overlooked” that the patent on Ivermectin is long expired. In other words, and emphasizing that I don’t know anything about pharmaceutical industry, it is probably more profitable for Big Pharma to sell experimental “vaccines” that use non-expired patents to big government.

In fact, a freeper mentioned several hundred dollars per shot awhile back.

Also, it would be interesting if medical history would have turned out better if vitamin D3 had been discovered before vaccines were.

Insights welcome.


24 posted on 11/30/2021 6:56:00 PM PST by Amendment10
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To: ptsal

Thanks.

I was one of those normal people that started off cheering for the arrival of the vaxx but prepping for Quercetin / Zinc sulfate / Vit D, C, etc.

Then information starting popping up about the vaxx.

Followed all the stories and now I just want the ones that knew the vaxx was pathetic and HCQ/Zinc and Ivermectin really did work to pay for their crimes.

.


25 posted on 11/30/2021 7:05:20 PM PST by TLI (ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: SeekAndFind
I can't say that de-worming doesn't help against COVID-19, but it's scientifically IMPOSSIBLE that that's the only reason it helps:

Bottom line: To claim that a therapeutic drug with known, proven antiviral action against virii in general, and against SARS-Cov-2 in particular, is only effective because it kills worms is an extraordinary claim, and so requires extraordinary proof.

26 posted on 11/30/2021 7:10:20 PM PST by sourcery (‘We Are An Evil Company.. You’re Better Off Catching COVID Than Getting Vaccine’ ~ 3 Pfizer Scientis)
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To: SeekAndFind

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I03JFB3LoF4


27 posted on 11/30/2021 7:11:55 PM PST by chopperk
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To: Billyv
If I recall “The Donald” mentioned ivermectin early as well as Hydroxychloriquine. ...

Wonder where we'd be today if had said DO NOT use them under any circumstances.

28 posted on 11/30/2021 7:24:53 PM PST by JPG (You can't unjab the jab.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Thanks for posting! This analysis is very detailed and explains why so many have been fooled by ivermectin.

https://astralcodexten.substack.com/p/ivermectin-much-more-than-you-wanted
The Summary

Ivermectin doesn’t reduce mortality in COVID a significant amount (let’s say d > 0.3) in the absence of comorbid parasites: 85-90% confidence

Parasitic worms are a significant confounder in some ivermectin studies, such that they made them get a positive result even when honest and methodologically sound: 50% confidence

Fraud and data processing errors are of similar magnitude to p-hacking and methodological problems in explaining bad studies (95% confidence interval for fraud: between >1% and 5% as important as methodological problems; 95% confidence interval for data processing errors: between 5% and 100% as important)

Probably “Trust Science” is not the right way to reach proponents of pseudoscientific medicine: ???% confidence


29 posted on 11/30/2021 7:28:22 PM PST by consult
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To: SeekAndFind

“They” were not wrong, they intentionally LIED to us for the profit of Big Pharma.


30 posted on 11/30/2021 7:34:23 PM PST by CtBigPat (The time of Crisis is ending. Now comes Normalization.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Viruses are small obligate intracellular parasites, which by definition contain either a RNA or DNA genome surrounded by a protective, virus-coded protein coat.

Google it...


31 posted on 11/30/2021 7:39:04 PM PST by babygene (hMake America Great Again)
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To: SeekAndFind

“Ivermectin acts as a protease inhibitor... The interesting thing is the soon to be given EUA pill that Pfizer developed to treat Covid is also a protease inhibitor according to their research.”

Some are jokingly calling Pfizer’s knock off “Pfizermectin”.


32 posted on 11/30/2021 7:40:25 PM PST by BeauBo
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To: SeekAndFind
Ivermectin, ‘Wonder drug’ from Japan: the human use perspective Feb. 10, 2011 - ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Discovered in the late-1970s, the pioneering drug ivermectin, a dihydro derivative of avermectin—originating solely from a single microorganism isolated at the Kitasato Intitute, Tokyo, Japan from Japanese soil—has had an immeasurably beneficial impact in improving the lives and welfare of billions of people throughout the world.

(snip)

There are few drugs that can seriously lay claim to the title of ‘Wonder drug’, penicillin and aspirin being two that have perhaps had greatest beneficial impact on the health and wellbeing of Mankind. But ivermectin can also be considered alongside those worthy contenders, based on its versatility, safety and the beneficial impact that it has had, and continues to have, worldwide—especially on hundreds of millions of the world’s poorest people.


33 posted on 11/30/2021 7:42:52 PM PST by TigersEye (Ray Epps didn't kill himself.)
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To: FreedomPoster
"We need Nuremberg 2.0 to teach some people a lesson."

I'm with you on that, and it needs to be more thorough, and more encompassing, with more punishment being doled out than the original Nuremberg did.

34 posted on 11/30/2021 7:47:25 PM PST by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne )
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To: SeekAndFind
Parasites suppress the immune system, making it more difficult for the human body to fight off viruses. Thus, getting rid of worm infections makes it easier for COVID-19 patients to bounce back from the virus.

So they’re saying covid patients have worms?

And the reason ivermectin works is due to it removing the worms?

But .. are the worms the reason why they have covid?

Did they get covid from the worms or because they have worms?

If you don’t have worms, are you immune to covid?

35 posted on 11/30/2021 8:17:07 PM PST by GBA (Endeavor to persevere)
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To: SeekAndFind

If ivermectin was acknowledged as a treatment, even marginally, then the Emergency Use Authorization for the Covid jabs would disappear. Simple. As. That.


36 posted on 11/30/2021 9:35:03 PM PST by drSteve78 (Je suis Deplorable. STILL)
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To: drSteve78

Further, FYI, one of the drugs to treat AIDS as an immune system stimulator is Levamisole. There was a time when gay men were having difficulty paying for the $1200 per dose therapy, and suddenly there was a shortage of sheep/goat deworming boluses.

Yes friends, gay man were taking sheep dewormer. At $8 per bolus, cut in four pieces.


37 posted on 11/30/2021 9:41:10 PM PST by drSteve78 (Je suis Deplorable. STILL)
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To: SeekAndFind

Mr. Alexander’s idea is idiotic.

The biochemistry of how Ivermectin stops the virus is well understood.

This smells like last gasp misinformation by the NIH/FDA/CDC mafia.


38 posted on 11/30/2021 10:13:54 PM PST by devere
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To: SeekAndFind; All
Here is the No BS (video) history of the development and prescriptions of Ivermectin.

https://rumble.com/vlpecw-the-story-of-ivermectin.html

39 posted on 11/30/2021 11:54:47 PM PST by Cobra64 (Common sense isn’t common anymore.)
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To: butlerweave; All

HCQ was developed for malaria. It’s been repurposed for Covid. Early on, Trump pushed and took HCQ. Remember?


40 posted on 11/30/2021 11:57:22 PM PST by Cobra64 (Common sense isn’t common anymore.)
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