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The woman Alec Baldwin killed
https://donsurber.blogspot.com ^ | Friday, October 22, 2021 | Don Surber

Posted on 10/22/2021 12:37:12 PM PDT by Red Badger

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To: scouter

There was a perfect NRA Gun Safety course that could have helped.


101 posted on 10/22/2021 8:19:19 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Sarah Barracuda

I’m sure I am not telling you something you do not already know,

but you NEVER ever point a fire arm at another person. That is basic fire arm safety, to not aim at a human being ever, not even with an empty gun that you just checked.


102 posted on 10/22/2021 8:30:36 PM PDT by jpsb
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To: Chad C. Mulligan

Cocking the hammer is not a good idea unless you intend to shoot. Trigger pressure (on a double action revolver) is way less with the hammer cocked.


103 posted on 10/22/2021 8:35:02 PM PDT by jpsb
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To: Red Badger

Rumor has it her lawyer husband works for a firm representing Sussman. Can anyone confirm?


104 posted on 10/22/2021 8:36:35 PM PDT by bankwalker (groupthink kills ...)
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To: McGavin999

Saw a set of onset rules for prop guns- and they include using only cleared non ammunition in them- not sure about the block- but even guns that are disabled for firing real ammunition can still kill if something is lodged i n the barrel- the force of the explosion of the prop ammo is enough to send whatever is in barrel out at extreme speed-


105 posted on 10/22/2021 9:27:42 PM PDT by Bob434
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To: z3n
Most of these articles seem to be written by millennial's who have absolutely no idea what geography is and couldn't find their own face in a mirror.
106 posted on 10/23/2021 12:44:39 AM PDT by jmacusa (America.Founded by geniuses. Now governed by idiots. )
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To: TexasGator

Nope.


107 posted on 10/23/2021 9:10:09 AM PDT by dhs12345
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To: TexasGator

Apparently it wasn’t a prop.


108 posted on 10/23/2021 9:10:39 AM PDT by dhs12345
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To: TexasGator
That is yet to be seen. I hope that I don't need to explain a non-functional firearm vs a functional firearm.

However, a reasonable expectation of any actor on set is that the firearm is completely safe. That means that if it is a fully functional weapon that it is completely empty and whenever handed over to the actor, slide, etc. is open. Heck, I would even go as far as to demand that a firearm on set be completely nonfunctional because your run of the mill actor will not know how to handle a firearm.

109 posted on 10/23/2021 9:15:09 AM PDT by dhs12345
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To: Bob434
I am sure that he blames himself.

You can try to argue that my son was irresponsible in his handling of his air-soft ak-47 rifle. Heck he was shooting his friends with it. Them too with their own air-soft rifles. BTW, they all had eye protection and yes, it still hurts when you get hit by an air-soft bb. But beyond that, no one was hurt, no one died.

Heck, someone in the neighborhood called the police because the group of boys looked threatening with their “realistic looking guns” when they were walking home from the park.

Let me add to the above statement... if it were a >>real<< ak-47 then yes, there would be some explaining to do. And yes, someone may have been injured or died.

But is not a >>real<< ak-47.

110 posted on 10/23/2021 9:24:55 AM PDT by dhs12345
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To: dhs12345

Yeah airsofts can certainl6,sting, but they have regulations on how,fast they can fire for safety reasons. UT airsofts are made for “war games”, so I don’t think it can be argued they were being irresponsible. They were using tools designed for what they were doing. Prop gu s however still fire the same velocities as real guns. Prop guns are usually real guns that fire blanks and or real ammo.


111 posted on 10/23/2021 9:28:31 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: Bob434

A prop gun should be exactly that and nothing more. If it is a fully functional gun that is shooting blanks, then it better have been completely disabled by a gun smith. Or modified so that it can’t fire a projectile. Maybe a plug although that is probably not safe either. BTW, I am not a gun smith.

And I agree with you, blanks are just as dangerous. But then again, blanks are designed to be fired out of a functional gun.


112 posted on 10/23/2021 9:35:05 AM PDT by dhs12345
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To: dhs12345

“However, a reasonable expectation of any actor on set is that the firearm is completely safe.”

The expectation is that Guns are dangerous and should be handled safely.


113 posted on 10/23/2021 9:37:25 AM PDT by TexasGator (UF)
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To: Bob434

BTW, it is a good thing that he doesn’t own firearms. He is stupid and might hurt someone. But this situation doesn’t fall into that category.


114 posted on 10/23/2021 9:39:04 AM PDT by dhs12345
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To: dhs12345

“And I agree with you, blanks are just as dangerous.”

Really!


115 posted on 10/23/2021 9:41:43 AM PDT by TexasGator (UF)
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To: dhs12345

They shoukd be, but they arent. I posted what appears 5o,be onset rules for propguns in the following post

https://freerepublic.com/focus/chat/4006016/posts?page=73#73

You can see how serioiusky,seriously, are supposed to take safety. Unfortunately Alec and crew did not follow basic safety rules. There are also procedures for “firing” whe the scene Calls for firing “at” the camera or someone. They are never supposed to point directly at the person. The angle is supposed to look like it is, but it isn’t. Alec
Pointed directly at the camera woman and fella behind her


116 posted on 10/23/2021 9:42:21 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: TexasGator

Agreed. But I don’t blame Baldwin. I blame the set director, etc. Whomever is in charge.

And my son, who had never shot a firearm at the time, was shooting his “AK-47” at his friends. Good thing that it wasn’t a real AK-47 but we knew that. Or assumed that it wasn’t real when we bought it for him for Christmas. Actually, I knew and no it was not capable of firing the standard AK cartridge.


117 posted on 10/23/2021 9:43:08 AM PDT by dhs12345
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To: dhs12345

See my last post. Alec pointed the gun at the camerawoman. A huge no no.


118 posted on 10/23/2021 9:43:43 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: Bob434

“Firearm safety” would dictate that you would never point a loaded firearm at someone whom >you didn’t intend to hurt.<

Heck, I wouldn’t even point a firearm at someone “just playing around.”

But I bet that “firearms” are pointed a people all the time on a movie set. That is part of the show.


119 posted on 10/23/2021 9:46:20 AM PDT by dhs12345
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To: dhs12345

“Agreed. But I don’t blame Baldwin. I blame the set director, etc. Whomever is in charge.”

Alec Baldwin was in charge.

Not only did he not have a safe movie set, he personally violated movie set weapons protocols.


120 posted on 10/23/2021 9:48:17 AM PDT by TexasGator (UF)
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