Don't know the original source though.
Posted on 10/22/2021 7:38:59 AM PDT by marcusmaximus
It was one bullet that discharged from the prop gun on the Santa Fe movie “Rust” and killed the director of photography and wounded the movie’s director.
An eyewitness on set tells this column that the bullet went straight through the body of DP Halyna Hutchins and into the clavicle of the film’s director Joel Souza.
Very quickly the set was locked down. Ambulance and helicopters arrived. Hutchins and Souza were sent straight to the hospital. Hutchins died en route in a helicopter.
On the ground, Baldwin was in shock but composed. He kept asking why he was handed a “hot gun.” Our eyewitness said Baldwin kept saying “In all my years, I’ve never been handed a hot gun.”
“A hot gun” means a gun with real ammunition.
Baldwin, not knowing the fate of the victims, was taken immediately to the hospital. “He had no idea how badly they were hurt or Halyna was dead.”
(Excerpt) Read more at showbiz411.com ...
If it went through two people obviously there was some type of bullet in it. Lead? Rolled up paper? Broken wood dowel?
I remember a shooting with blanks fifty years ago in Durango Colorado in which a firearm with blanks was used, but a real bullet of a different caliber came out of the gun and killed a woman. Everyone was scratching their heads over that.
I agree. It was a horrible accident.
Don’t like his politics but we should pray for him.
“He is an actor with lots of history having emotional and violent outbursts. I’m suspicious as should everyone. “
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Yes. He called his daughter a “pig,” I believe. He is a nasty man.
But a full investigation is warranted and he will probably have to pay the family a buttload of money.
I’m a lawyer and believe me, they are circling right now. You know the old joke: “Why don’t sharks attack lawyers? Professional courtesy.” LOL
“Even though I don’t like the guy, I am certain he had no desire to harm anyone.
I’m just pointing out what will certainly be more liberal hypocrisy. But if you or I were out hunting with friends, or giving a firearms class, and a similar thing happened, I guarantee you - statist/leftist DAs would make sure we were in jail.”
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No question that we regular folks in flyover country would be charged and jailed.
I didn’t read your response after you gave me shit. I was trying to explain my stuff in a less snarky manner. And now you get worked up.
Never mind. Neither of us can read well today.
Got me there Alec, been handed hot guns aplenty, but never in all my years have I managed a two-fer.
Thank God he didn't hit that $20,000 lens.
One can bend safety rules under carefully guarded and monitored circumstances. How can you defuse a live bomb without breaking some safety rules? The problem here is that those carefully guarded and monitored circumstances were not used. Two or even three people should check a weapon that is being used under such circumstances.
Perhaps mixing prop guns and shooter's guns was the problem. Maybe there was a bullet in the barrel left there from a misfire previously or during happy range time. It mostly boils down to the folks who handed him the weapon.
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Look at his eyes, there is a dead soul in him.
While the actors generally delegate the care of weapons to a prop master, you can bet they won't be so inattentive in the future. And while I don't expect Baldwin to be charged, this will destroy his career.
Hollow point bullets at high enough velocity and at close range can act just like a full metal jacket bullet. The cavity cavity can plug up with clothing, flesh or whatever and then does not expand properly. As in .357 Magnum +P or +P+ ammunition used at say less than 10 feet. I can’t recall the name of the researcher (Strass-something or other...?) but there were lethality tests made on live goats years ago that shed more light on the subject.
Me, I prefer an RPG or something to that affect.
A gun made in the 1800’s would likely be too valuable and too weak to be used with modern ammo-unless the ammo was purposely downgraded. With that said, there are lots of modern-day copies of old timey revolvers made. Uberti, an Italian firearm maker comes to mind and their revolvers are built to shoot modern day ammo. The cowboy action shooting hobby has brought a lot of this about.
Someone above mentioned the gun involved was a .44 caliber revolver. That is a hefty, large diameter projectile and it takes a lot of force-i.e. gunpowder, to fire it out of the barrel at high enough velocity to penetrate a body. But until all the facts are in, it’s just speculation.
Me? I’m more of a Claymore fan, myself. ;)
The affidavit, which was obtained with a search warrant, also states that Baldwin had been standing behind Hutchins when he discharged the firearm, hitting Hutchins in the chest and Souza in the shoulder.
So, was that fucker Baldwin just screwing around when he fired off the gun??
Quite the trick to be behind the person, but shoot them in the chest. I think the article you posted miss-stated the affadavit. The affadavid was not worded the best though.
It stated something like Baldwin shot the camera woman and the director, standing behind the woman. (Not the exact wording.) Then it said how the woman was shot in the chest. I had to re-read the first sentence three times to figure it out.
“ANYONE who handles a gun is responsible for it. It’s a core concept that you assume ALL guns are loaded.”
A freeper told the story about how he was at a friend’s house in the basement looking at the friend’s new pistol. The friend unloaded it and put the rounds standing up on the table and they both dry fired it, etc.
The wife calls them up for dinner. Freeper excuses himself to use the downstairs toilet. Comes out a few minutes later and sees the pistol there with the rounds still stacked on the table.
Decides to take a few more dry fires before heading upstairs for dinner. Aims at the water-cooler bottle in the corner. BANG!
His friend for whatever reason had reloaded the pistol with different ammo out of a box and left the other ammo sitting on the table!!
Thank goodness the freeper was only out the cost of a water cooler bottle and a bit of his pride. And will NEVER make that mistake again!
A .44 caliber pistol could shoot a pencil eraser through two people.
At what point does ignoring of safety cross from negligence to willfulness?
Give him the chair and be done with this.
“ Prop guns are assumed to be NEVER armed with live ammo,…
Again, that isn’t correct. Baldwin did just that, he assumed it didn’t contain live ammo and that wrong assumption killed someone.
You validate it visually. Every. Single. Time.
Assuming it’s unloaded, or loaded with blanks can be deadly. Remind me not to go shooting with you. I don’t want to be the target of your failed assumption.
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