Posted on 09/09/2021 6:58:17 AM PDT by numberonepal
Niacin is OK with heat? I'm glad to know that since it's been a struggle to get the niacin to dissolve in room-temperature water.
This is a soft simmer, like 90C. It does need some heat to dissolve well. It's not going to be hot enough to damage the molecule.
Dietary Sources and Bioactivities of Melatonin https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/labs/pmc/articles/PMC5409706/The confusion seems to be with the unit "ng" (the abbreviation for nanograms, or billionths of a gram). My annotations in [brackets].Mushrooms, like white ones, Agaricus bisporus, have 4300-6400 ng/g of melatonin.
Though, this same study found pistachios contain ~230000ng/g of melatonin, considerably more (350x?) than the other study.
Coffee beans weigh in at 1mg/bean (whole) so maybe chocolate covered espresso beans might be a good source...(8000ng/g * 0.125g/bean)
Black pepper has 1mg/g too.
Coffee brewed is 60mg/L. Perhaps it’s better to drink 20 cups a day after all...
Mushrooms, like white ones, Agaricus bisporus, have 4300-6400 ng/g of melatonin.
[This is 4.3-6.4 micrograms/g, or 0.0043-0.0064 mg/g. It would take 1000 g of mushrooms (2.2 lbs) to get 5 mg of melatonin.]
Though, this same study found pistachios contain ~230000ng/g of melatonin, considerably more (350x?) than the other study.
[This translates to 0.23 mg/g, or 6 mg for the typical 50P dose.]
Coffee beans weigh in at 1mg/bean (whole) so maybe chocolate covered espresso beans might be a good source...(8000ng/g * 0.125g/bean)
[8000 ng/g is 8 micrograms/g, or 0.008 mg/g, so one bean is about 0.001 or 1/1000 of a mg of melatonin
Black pepper has 1mg/g too.
[Again, probably 0.001 mg/g]
Coffee brewed is 60mg/L. Perhaps it’s better to drink 20 cups a day after all...
[With the above figure for coffee beans, we're now talking 0.06mg/liter, so you would need 16 liters of coffee to get 1 mg!]
My conclusion: only pistachios seem to have a significant amount of melatonin. Everything else, with respect to melatonin content, is a pisoshito. Unless you really like mushrooms.
I saw someone(s) mentioning cranberries, too, on the Telegram chat. I like Craisins. Had a dish of mixed pistachios, Craisins and almonds for a snack yesterday. Mmmmm!
Re: dosage memage -
Sheesh... and now I’m reading on the Tele chat where sum people be wantin’ to mix Niatonin and psychedelic mushrooms...
While the Kats away, the mice will play.
Me, I don’ wanna be trippin’. I just wanna get rid of these dang eye floaters... ;-)
This article says that "dried cranberries provide up to 0.096 milligrams of melatonin per gram." Unfortunately, Craisins are over half sugar so you'd have to factor that in. If you generously assigned Craisins 0.05 mg melatonin/gram, then you would need 20 g of Craisins to get 1 mg. To get the 6 mg that are in 50 pistachios, you would need about 120 g or roughly a quarter pound of Craisins -- which will also include more than 2.5 oz, or 15 teaspoons, of sugar. (According to the ingredients, 40 g of Craisins contain 27 g sugar.)
During a self-improvement webinar today, a woman mentioned that she had had COVID twice. I talked to her afterwards. For her second bout, she spent $14K (including $7K on credit cards) on doctors to get real treatment, which did at least include ivermectin, zinc, vitamin D, quercetin, etc. Massive quantities of zinc finally brought her taste and smell back.
I told her the basics of the Niatonin story and pointed her to the website. Unfortunately, she's allergic to pistachios, but perhaps she'll try the pure melatonin approach. She thinks she become allergic to pistachios by eating them every day for a long while. That's something we might all be concerned about, so we should definitely be looking for alternatives that we can rotate among.
If, as I have theorized, there's some mystery ingredient(s) in cherries that helps activate melatonin, perhaps we could combine cherries with a small amount of melatonin powder to provide the amount needed for the Niatonin effect.
It seems like you're headed in the right direction. This article (about non-surgical ways of getting rid of eye floaters) suggests:
Floaters are a bear. I’ve heard people on the board talking about floaters being diminished. I haven’t noticed a change in mine. We’ll see what happens.
bkmk
OK, I ate 1oz. of Pistachios. That was 52 naked nuts. I took 250mg of Niacin. No flush, zip, nada. I did it after lunch.
I did the the Niatonin + acupuncture experiment again today. When I woke up from the one-hour acu-nap, it wasn’t anything special but as I lay there for a few minutes, the pure transcendental bliss effect returned and persisted for 10 or 15 minutes, until the lovely Miss Kate had to make room for another client. If anything, the feeling was even stronger this time. As I left the clinic my heart was bursting with joy.
By the way, I moved up from 1000N to 1200N today, with 60-70P and a banana. Very minor flushing: warming around the ears, slight itch in the forearms.
Oh, and weight loss close to 4 lbs now.
Um, like wow.
Bewm! I think that’s prolly too many stachios. Only one way to find out. Try 500 and same nuts. That’s a quarter cup. That’s going to get old fast. I’m doing a half cup roughly for 2000 and I can barely chew anymore as I do it thrice today. Been making the wife a pistachio “shake” that has about 1/2 cup stachios in 1 cup milk and some honey. Maybe I should switch to that as it easier to get them in you. I’m thinking the holiday spices might be a good add.
Warmth around the eyes. Did 50 min in an IR sauna (Hotworx) afterward.
Does it have to be a huge dose of Niacin to work?
I guess what I’m asking is, can 500mg a day of the flush niacin be dangerous or is it only the other niacin that is dangerous at high amounts? I know you explained how it works somewhere up thread but has anybody had bloodwork done after taking that much to check liver values? Did I read that at the right dosage each they cancel each other out?
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