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Why America Was Destined To Fail In Afghanistan
19FortyFive ^ | 8/15/2021 | Andrew A. Michta

Posted on 08/15/2021 5:31:02 AM PDT by Onthebrink

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To: Onthebrink

Rules of Engagement with Muslims -

If Infidels are present, Sunni with unite with Shi’a sects to enslave (physical, sex, monetary), convert, and annihilate all Infidels.

If no Infidels present, Sunni will turn against Shi’a until one or the other is enslaved or annihilated.

The rising population of Muslims over 1200 years shows the effectiveness of their tactics.


21 posted on 08/15/2021 6:58:30 AM PDT by RideForever (Know Islam, No Peace; No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: BuffaloJack

And even he, was grateful to get out in one piece 😏


22 posted on 08/15/2021 7:01:08 AM PDT by thesearethetimes... (Had I brought Christ with me, the outcome would have been different. Dr.Eric Cunningham)
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To: BuffaloJack

And he did get a wife out of it, but only he and she knows if it was worth the cost 😉


23 posted on 08/15/2021 7:03:22 AM PDT by thesearethetimes... (Had I brought Christ with me, the outcome would have been different. Dr.Eric Cunningham)
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To: Onthebrink
It is ironic how Bush was unwilling to use American power to do the job correctly in Afghanistan, but start and endless war under the pretense of keeping America safe. We could have gone in, destroyed Afghanistan, murdered the Taliban by the thousands, salted the poppy fields an left. It would have taken months, not 20 years. We would have had victory and not this Charlie Foxtrot today.

Instead, Bush and Obama kept doubling down on failed policy allowing American lives and limbs to be taken. They doubled down on failed policy and wasted American treasure on rebuilding a Godless nation. They doubled down on failed policy of giving "democracy" to an illiterate people that have no idea what democracy is and how it has failed in the past.

Every step of the way, the deep state establishment enriched themselves. This even goes back to the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan. They made the same mistakes then. The CIA funding Bin Laden for example.

That could easily been avoided with a little knowledge about Islam and history. Relying on Muslims, men without character, was a mistake and will always be a mistake. We did it with Bin Laden, but we didn't learn from that easily foreseen mistake. We doubled down on the likes of Abdul Rashid Dostum, another man of character. Gen. Dostum of the Northern Alliance, had to flee Afghanistan because he was a rapist. He didn't do the job correctly to begin with because he was always destined to fail. Bush relied on a man without character, one of many, when a job needed to be done correctly.

Here is a useful lesson. No Muslim is ever a man of character. Muslims do not share Western values. They are antithetical to every thing that is American. Never rely on Muslims to do what is needed to be done. You only need to look at what a great job the Muslim Afghan Army is doing today, after $88 billion in training and arms. They are not just surrendering to the Taliban, they are defecting. Just yesterday, a General of an Afghan Army division, defected to the Taliban with his troops and arms. He didn't surrender, he became a traitor. A man of character, trained by the American elitist establishment that is so intelligent that they can't judge character.

I had no problem going into Afghanistan after 9/11. The Islamic world needed a beat down, not a rebuilding. We should have rained holy hell fire on Afghanistan, Iran, Iraq, Libya, Syria, Somalia and many other places that supported terrorism. Murdering Muslims throughout the world would have made the world a better place. Rebuilding them has not. We should have done it ourselves, as men of character, with or without the help of around natural allies.

Instead we relied on Muslims. Instead we allowed RINOs like Bush, and all Democrats trade our freedoms for safety. We got neither. We got things like the Patriot Act at home, when the solution was to kill Muslims abroad. We were told that we needed to handle terrorism aboard, so it would never be in America again. But we allow thousands of Muslims from around the world to migrate to America. We got the likes of Illhan Omar in Congress. Instead we should have been deporting every single Muslim foreign national.

This has been a cluster for decades. It is time to correct our direction and make things right. That begins with ending this crap in Afghanistan and sending every Muslim national in America home. We also need to deport every damn illegal that has crossed our southern border home. Everyone of these people, Muslim or not, makes American less American.

24 posted on 08/15/2021 7:13:15 AM PDT by ConservativeInPA (“When injustice becomes law, resistance becomes duty.” ― Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Alberta's Child

There was no shock or awe in the entire ME.


25 posted on 08/15/2021 7:47:39 AM PDT by bgill (.Which came first, the vax or the virus?)
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26 posted on 08/15/2021 8:47:24 AM PDT by GraceG ("If I post an AWESOME MEME, STEAL IT! JUST RE-POST IT IN TWO PLACES PLEASE")
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To: PTBAA

[ Why America Was Destined To Fail In Afghanistan:

Islam. ]

Should have gone in and killed every male older than the age of 12.

Then left, let the countries on either side absorb that godforsaken place into their borders.

They live by 0th century cultural rules....

Make then live by 0th century warfare rules!

But no... we decided NOT to win, just create a justification for tax payer waste and shedding the blood of our own boys.


27 posted on 08/15/2021 8:49:39 AM PDT by GraceG ("If I post an AWESOME MEME, STEAL IT! JUST RE-POST IT IN TWO PLACES PLEASE")
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To: PTBAA

“Why America Was Destined To Fail In Afghanistan: Islam.”

Absolutely correct.


28 posted on 08/15/2021 9:14:02 AM PDT by Enten (I don't have islamophobia...I do have islamonausea)
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To: Roccus

“Why America Was Destined To Fail In Afghanistan
Nation Building.”

I agree with Stephen K. Bannon when he said, Afghanistan isn’t a nation, it’s land that is occupied by 50 difference tribes. I just wonder how long it will take the dems to blame President Trump, because the dems surely won’t take any responsibility for their screw ups.


29 posted on 08/15/2021 9:27:15 AM PDT by kagnew
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To: Alberta's Child

Well, all the US failure there is just trying to build an unsupported, frameless, stone house on top of some quicksand.. Their entire culture and society just doesn’t work with a republican style of governance, or even a democracy. They have two options: buncha loose tribes with no national cohesion, or a strong-hand dictator/oligarchy that brutally reigns them together. Anything else is simply too unstable and won’t work. Period.


30 posted on 08/15/2021 9:52:44 AM PDT by Svartalfiar
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To: ConservativeInPA

Very well said!


31 posted on 08/15/2021 9:54:58 AM PDT by Svartalfiar
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To: Onthebrink
The narrative is a lie. We had to go to Afghanistan after 9/11 and destroy Al Qaeda. We did that, remarkably well and easily.

Nation building is a failed idea. But, staying there as a means of combating Islamic terrorist was basic commonsense.

Leaving and letting the Taliban takwoever is an idiotic decision that will force to go back and wipe out Islamic terrorists again. We'll lose more lives ultimately than if we had stayed.

32 posted on 08/15/2021 11:16:55 AM PDT by Kazan
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To: Onthebrink
Some people call it will to WIN.
33 posted on 08/15/2021 12:16:33 PM PDT by dearolddad
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To: Onthebrink

Because the Afghanis didn’t want to buy what we were selling.


34 posted on 08/15/2021 12:18:52 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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