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Is Ivermectin effective against Covid? A Dispassionate Look at Four Reasonably Large Randomized Controlled Trials
Sebastian Rushworth M.D. ^ | 01/17/2021

Posted on 07/14/2021 12:36:35 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: SeekAndFind

Personally, I have dropped @ 10 lbs over the past 12 days. No appetite and the food doesn’t taste good. I have been doing lots of soup.

I can tell I am definitively winded. I do check my pulse 02 regularly.

God Bless.

MFO


21 posted on 07/14/2021 4:58:19 PM PDT by Man from Oz
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To: Man from Oz

do you have any insight into whether PH will prescribe Ivermectin prophylactically? I need to do a fair amount of air travel and would like to go ahead and start the proph. dosage before travel.


22 posted on 07/14/2021 6:12:52 PM PDT by WoofDog123
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To: WoofDog123

That is exactly what I have done. I make no bones about what I want and how much. I try to max my purchase of tabs per script to keep cost down.


23 posted on 07/14/2021 6:25:16 PM PDT by Man from Oz
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To: gas_dr

Thank you for taking the time to respond. I always appreciate hearing your perspective.


24 posted on 07/14/2021 7:18:08 PM PDT by FamiliarFace
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To: FamiliarFace

It can certainly hurt if it causes someone to delay seeking more effective treatment


25 posted on 07/14/2021 7:25:30 PM PDT by Mom MD ( )
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To: FamiliarFace

Thank you for your kind words — they are greatly appreciated.


26 posted on 07/14/2021 7:57:12 PM PDT by gas_dr (Conditions of Socratic debate: Intelligence, Candor, and Good Will. )
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To: SeekAndFind

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27 posted on 07/14/2021 8:17:29 PM PDT by Marcell
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To: WoofDog123
You can also go here and they'll prescribe it prophylactically. I had no problem getting it.
28 posted on 07/14/2021 8:19:24 PM PDT by ncdrumr (Oooh, SarahCUda!)
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To: Man from Oz

Later

Ivermectin info.


29 posted on 07/14/2021 8:33:49 PM PDT by JstABrdPstr
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To: SeekAndFind

I’d still like to look at a solid study of Brazil, where ivermectin is cheaper than candy at $5/4, and was reportedly widely used. But Brazil has a very mortality rate - 2nd in the world, higher than India. (US with 35M/624t versus BZ 19M/538t cases/deaths) . One would expect that Brazil would have lower deaths but they are number 3 in cases and number 2 in deaths.


30 posted on 07/14/2021 8:34:51 PM PDT by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017) )
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To: billyboy15
After reading this I have come to the conclusion that taking Ivermectin has a great chance of helping one get through the china virus along with a likely zero chance of doing harm based on how long it has been around.

Pretty much. Sure would be nice if the medical establishment in the west had an interest in drugs that don't cost an arm and a leg.

31 posted on 07/14/2021 9:24:37 PM PDT by zeugma (Stop deluding yourself that America is still a free country.)
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To: Rad_J

This was in pill form. I was told to take 4 small pills then wait 2 days and take 4 more.


Good evening.

I was wondering what the dosage was on the 4 pills...

Were you using the IMASK protocol from the FLCCC - Dr. Kory?

Any information would be helpful as I am in a Blue State that does not have a lot of Ivermectin - prescribing doctors.

Thank you!


32 posted on 07/14/2021 10:00:54 PM PDT by Freedom56v2 (If I wanted to live in China, I would move there!)
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To: SeekAndFind; ransomnote; Jane Long; bitt; bagster; numberonepal; Cletus.D.Yokel; Cathi

From patriots.win:

July 15, 2021

“The ‘NIH COVID-19 Treatment Guidelines Panel’ updated its recommendation on ivermectin for COVID-19 on January 14, 2021.

“In the update, the NIH removed its recommendation against the use of ivermectin in COVID-19. However, the Panel also declined to recommend ivermectin for use in COVID-19.

About two months after the NIH meeting on ivermectin, the NIH announced the award..funding to study the use of repurposed drugs in COVID-19.

“NIH COVID-19 Panel member received massive windfall from ivermectin non-recommendation - $155M

“The principal investigator of the trial was not identified initially but, in a later announcement, was identified to be Susanna Naggie, who is also a member of the ‘NIH COVID-19 Treatment Guidelines Panel’.

“The two positions Naggie holds clearly represent a conflict of interest. A positive recommendation on the use of the drug (Ivermectin) in COVID-19 would effectively end the(her) clinical trial. The NIH award also raises the question of whether the prospect of the award played a role in the current recommendation on ivermectin.

“The review process of the NIH COVID-19 Treatment Guidelines is beyond suspicious.

“She has not responded..

https://trialsitenews.com/nih-covid-19-panel-member-received-massive-windfall-from-ivermectin-recommendation/?utm_source=Contextly&utm_medium=ChannelEmail&utm_campaign=Ivermectin&utm_content=Notification

https://www.md.com/doctor/susanna-naggie-md


33 posted on 07/15/2021 9:09:19 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: billyboy15; SeekAndFind; gas_dr; Rad_J; grey_whiskers; ProtectOurFreedom; FamiliarFace; ...

A lot more lives would have been saved if the roll out of HCQ information had been done correctly, not miscommunicated, or even sabotaged. Facts: The White house received ccs for the President and his Chief of Staff, Mark Meadows of Dr. Vladimir Zelenko’s March 23 letter to physicians worldwide. It included the information that zinc was a virus stopper/killer, HCQ helped zinc get into infected cells, and Azithromycin helped prevent bacterial infection of lungs. Also very early treatment was critical. Both Trump and Fauci mentioned zinc a couple of times along with a lot more emphasis on HCQ. Soon they stopped mentioning zinc at all. Kind of like praising the troop trains, but forgetting to mention the soldiers with guns being needed. Aroound May 14, 2020 Dr. Fauci announced that because it was important to find low cost medicine to treat Covid they would conduct a study of HCQ and Azithromycin in hospital settings. ZINC WAS NOT MENTIONED, nor early treatment. Subsequently Fauci was pushing Remdesivir which upon testing was not very effective. The cost for a course of Remdesivir treatment to insurance providers was around $3,000. The Zelenco treatment was around $20 for the medications. Dr Birx said she felt as if there was some other agenda going on at the White House that she was deliberately excluded from. Was this it?

Treating Covid early is critical before the virus multiplies and triggers the cytokine storms that are so deadly. Hospital treatment costs tens of $thousands. Multiple inputs are potentially important to stopping severe Covid. They can include a number of vitamins, minerals and other supplements. One of the more expensive supplements is Quercetin, a Vitamin C family nutrient. Dr. Zelenko says it can be used prophylacticly to enhance the immune system and in higher doses to act like HCQ to help zinc get into infected cells. Other basic nutrients to add are Vitamin C, and D3, zinc, a good multivitamin/mineral one daily type pill, 1 or 2 a day. There are a number of others that can be added, but may vary by personal needs. At any rate, what I have listed for prophylaxis costs less than $1 a day. Dr. Cathcart’s use of high dose Vitamin C for treatment of a number of severe ailments is enlightening reading. I will try to find is treatment described as given to “bowel tolerance” and post it a little later. BT means you increase dose until you get some diarrhea and then dial the dosage back a little.

Early in the pandemic Dr. Fauci said he did not think supplements helped. Finally in last winter he said that maybe Vitamin C and D3 might be useful. I think the failure of our key health agencies to tell us that Vitamin D3 is an essential nutrient which is especially often deficient in dark skinned people borders on the criminal. How many dark skinned people have died because they did NOT know this. One third of the world’s people are zinc deficient. One third of US people are Vitamin D deficient. Big Pharma and its obscene scramble for big money are actually killing people because people like Dr. Cathcart and Dr. Zelenko are being belittled and told their practical experience saving lives is only “anecdotal.” All the major illnesses of modern man can be traced to nutrient deficiencies of one sort or another, but there are no obscene profits in the supplement industry. If people and the government woke up and actually used applied nutrition to maximize health, we could afford Medicare for all.


34 posted on 07/16/2021 9:38:01 PM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: Freedom56v2
You can get telemedicine interviews with doctors and they will prescribe IVM and HCQ for you. They will send the script to your local pharmacy to have it filled.

I used Push Health the first time ($68 fee) and then talked to Dr. George Fareed (Brawley, CA) the second time (no fee). Both of them sent the scripts to my local Walgreens. I keep the IVM and doxycycline on hand in case I need it. Walgreens refused to fill the HCQ prescription unless I had an active COVID test & diagnosis, so I never got that filled.

Dr. Fareed recommends BOTH HCQ and IVM simultaneously. You can look up his papers and work online.

You can find the dosage amounts and frequency at the COVID-19 MANAGEMENT PROTOCOL: An overview of the MATH+ and I-MASK+ Protocols, Developed and Updated by Dr. Paul Marik. See page 9, Figure 7, "I-MASK prophylactic and Early Treatment Protocol" for dosage. Expanded details are on pages 10 & 11.

35 posted on 07/16/2021 10:06:32 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (“Criminal democrats kill babies, folks. Do you think anything else is a problem for them?” ~ joma89)
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To: gleeaikin

So to make synopsis of your post using your words.
1. Every disease in humans is traceable to some sort of vitamin deficiency
2. Big pharmacy knows this and is intentionally blocking this knowledge
3. If this knowledge were known we could fully socialize medicine and pay for Medicare for all which is the biggest liberal dream of all and suoooeree by Bernie Sanders and AOC to name a few

You sure you are on the right board? DU is down the hall and to the left. You maybe stumbled into the wrong room.


36 posted on 07/17/2021 12:47:08 AM PDT by gas_dr (Conditions of Socratic debate: Intelligence, Candor, and Good Will. )
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To: gleeaikin

I took HCQ and zinc in huge doses the first few days and got nothing but worse. It was useless for my variant.
Did it work on your Covid?


37 posted on 07/17/2021 2:15:35 AM PDT by Rad_J
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To: gas_dr; SeekAndFind; null and void; saintgermaine; All

It would help if you quoted me correctly.

1. I NEVER said “every disease in humans”, I said the “MAJOR diseases of MODERN man”—heart disease, diabetes, obesity, cancer, etc. Poor diet is a major cause of nutritional deficiencies, and until people are willing to eat right, supplements can correct a large part of those deficiencies.
2. Of course key people in Big Pharma are aware of this and you should look at the efforts to muzzle people like Dr. Linus Pauling’s foundation and limit their recommendations. There are no big profits to be made in supplement research, so the kind of people who seek $20million salaries are certainly not interested in committing any research money that may hurt their bottom line. I will seek other information on this for you.
3. I am really pixxed that Fauci is still the spokesman of current medical thought. His family owned a pharmacy and he things DRUGS. If they had owned a grocery he might give more thought to proper nutrients. If you support Big Med, then of course you are against those of us at FR who support good nutrition and supplementation for preventing and healing illness, especially Covid. Are you also a spokesman for Pfizer and Moderna?

I have also been accused of “violating community standards” by the censors for AOL articles, and refused printing at least 6 times for including nutrition facts in Comments. They do not like scientific links, so it is not possible to refute with established and published scientific information. Last March, just before my son in Special Forces left for a year in the Middle East, we were discussing the uses of Vitamin C and several intravenous C trials proposed in China. He told me that Youtube information on these happenings was been censored. And after the first few months, Dr. Zelenko’s letter of 3/23/2020 with ccs to the White House could no longer be found at Google using his name and date of his letter. If you approve of censorship of scientific information, then maybe you are in the wrong room.


38 posted on 07/17/2021 1:48:10 PM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: Rad_J; All

I would be interested to know what doses you were using for HCQ and zinc. I can look up the recommended amounts. Also I have heard no information HCQ and zinc for the new variants. Ivermectin seems to have had favorable results on the newer variants. Also, high Vitamin C might have been helpful and I will be posting some links to that in a subsequent comment after I finish checking them out.


39 posted on 07/17/2021 1:54:47 PM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: gleeaikin

I agree with what you try to get across. But keep in mind the world we live in is getting stranger by the minute. Stay healthy and well and keep up the good work.


40 posted on 07/17/2021 2:54:58 PM PDT by saintgermaine (Saintgermain the time traveler)
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