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1536: Anne Boleyn
ExecutedToday.com ^ | May 19, 2008 | Headsman

Posted on 05/19/2021 9:03:59 AM PDT by CheshireTheCat

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To: CrazyCatChick
"Anne Boleyn was a savvy political player, but I think “conniver” doesn’t really give the right flavor."

I'm sure her father, and uncle, Thomas Howard were manipulating her, and Henry's 5th wife Catherine Howard behind the scenes. Howard escaped execution when Henry VIII died.

41 posted on 05/19/2021 1:36:01 PM PDT by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne )
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To: CheshireTheCat

BKMK


42 posted on 05/19/2021 1:37:55 PM PDT by lizma2
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To: Beowulf9

Forgot to mention I visited Hampton Court twice as well, but wish I could have gotten to Hever Castle, and many other places on my two trips. My first trip to England overseas was for a 3 week bus tour of the British Isles. I made sure I had a week in London before the bus tour started so I could knock off some of the sites I had on my bucket list.


43 posted on 05/19/2021 1:41:36 PM PDT by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne )
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To: Red Badger
Unfortunately she did fulfill the mission, provide England with a male heir for the throne.

Anne did not ever give birth to a living son. All male children she birthed had died. The only living child was Elizabeth, who went on to become Elizabeth I.

Jane Seymour was the third wife who finally gave Henry his son. This child was named Edward; but, he was sickly for most of his life and died young. He was King for a short period of time.

Edward was succeeded by Mary, who was the only living child of Henry and Catherine. Mary had no children, so she was succeeded by Elizabeth.

44 posted on 05/19/2021 1:46:36 PM PDT by LibertarianLiz
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To: mass55th; Beowulf

I am so sorry for your loss as well.

Both of my parents are gone now; it’s very strange to be an adult orphan, in a sense. I always want to call my dad and ask him for advice.

My mother, I don’t feel the same about her because she beat me up all the time. I had to wear long sleeved shirts to school to hide the bruises.


45 posted on 05/19/2021 1:52:20 PM PDT by proud American in Canada (Fear is a reaction; courage is a decision. Winston Churchill )
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To: mass55th

I’m sorry for the loss of your mom. I do think someone saved your life there. My mother and my sister both did go to Hampton Court, she has a photo of herself there on the outside grounds. How exciting to go there!

Both my parents are gone as well now and my sister, my mother’s favorite child. I hope they are together at last, happy. But I used to phone her daily and want to call and tell her things constantly, I get that. Wow, your mom was a rip!

Well, Anne’s father was no treat, encouraging her to have the affair with the king. She seemed to excel at it and I’m sure passed everyone’s expectations becoming Queen. If only the boy she had lived, I wonder how history would’ve turned out.

And I wonder if she really does walk the Tower grounds on this day and Christmas Day at Hever Castle.


46 posted on 05/19/2021 2:07:59 PM PDT by Beowulf9
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To: proud American in Canada
There are way too many kids who have experienced what you have gone through, and sadly it is still going on today, especially with the amount of human trafficking that goes on. Some people, like yourself go through those things and are a better person for it. Others unfortunately, have used it as an excuse to act out, and commit crimes, knowing full-well what's right, and what's wrong.

As kids growing up in the 50's, we knew the one thing not to do was disrespect our mother, in front of our father. My father hit me once in his life, and that's all it took for me to never do it again. I don't remember my mother ever laying a hand on any of us kids. I was the baby, and probably could have used a smack to two from her growing up.

47 posted on 05/19/2021 2:14:57 PM PDT by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne )
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To: mass55th

You have a better throne claim than the Windsor Germans!


48 posted on 05/19/2021 2:16:50 PM PDT by cowboyusa (America Cowboy up! )
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To: Beowulf9
"And I wonder if she really does walk the Tower grounds on this day and Christmas Day at Hever Castle."

A lot of violence/torture occurred at the almost 1,000 year-old Tower. I wouldn't be surprised if many of its victims walked the grounds they spent their last days at.

49 posted on 05/19/2021 2:19:38 PM PDT by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne )
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To: cowboyusa
"You have a better throne claim than the Windsor Germans!"

Can't prove it though. I wrote to Dr. Turi King who worked on Richard III's DNA, as I share his Haplo Group J, and a couple of his sequences. She replied that one needs to have an all male, or all female line to make the connection. I have neither. It's made up of male and females through the lines. Richard III is allegedly my 15th great-granduncle through his brother Edward IV and Elizabeth of York, who are supposed to be my 15th Great-Grandparents, via their daughter Cecily, who married John Welles, 1st Viscount Welles.

50 posted on 05/19/2021 2:27:08 PM PDT by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne )
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To: mass55th

There is some evidence that Anne’s father was not happy to have his daughters mixed up with the king that way. But all of this history is viewed through a glass, darkly. Who knows what was done within a family.


51 posted on 05/19/2021 3:30:28 PM PDT by CrazyCatChick (But we know that when Christ appears, we shall be like him, for we shall see him as he is.)
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To: mass55th

It’s sad to me that she was such an outstanding step-mother, but wasn’t able to mother her own baby. And childbed fever is a pretty horrific way to go.


52 posted on 05/19/2021 3:30:28 PM PDT by CrazyCatChick (But we know that when Christ appears, we shall be like him, for we shall see him as he is.)
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To: mass55th

Im no fan of fiction . I truly enjoy reding her books and ive read all of her non fiction i like the way she writes!


53 posted on 05/19/2021 3:33:00 PM PDT by thesligoduffyflynns
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To: CrazyCatChick
"And childbed fever is a pretty horrific way to go."

And from what I understand, it was pretty common back then.

54 posted on 05/19/2021 3:46:35 PM PDT by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne )
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To: CrazyCatChick
"Who knows what was done within a family."

There was a lot of treachery done behind the scenes in these families that sought to get close to the throne, and the power it brought with it. Jane Grey was tossed to the wolves because of ambition by others.

55 posted on 05/19/2021 3:48:48 PM PDT by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne )
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

I was referring to this abomination (dozens of articles at the link site):

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-9595431/Jodie-Turner-Smith-recreates-Anne-Boleyns-execution-stills-Channel-5-drama.html


56 posted on 05/20/2021 1:18:23 AM PDT by Moltke (Reasoning with a liberal is like watering a rock in the hope to grow a building.)
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To: Moltke

Oh, I see. Well the Americans are pikers to the Europeans when it comes to rewriting history to suit their agenda.


57 posted on 05/20/2021 2:36:06 AM PDT by Oshkalaboomboom
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To: LibertarianLiz

Actually, Edward was succeeded by the 17 year old “nine days” queen Jane Grey that Mary had beheaded. That is an interesting and little known story in itself.


58 posted on 05/20/2021 3:33:52 AM PDT by hopespringseternal
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To: Beowulf9

even though it was not accurate it was entertaining.

AND the actress playing her was HOT.


59 posted on 05/20/2021 3:51:00 AM PDT by Adder ("Can you be more stupid?" is a question, not a challenge.)
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To: mware

“Well at least she wasn’t Thomas Cromwell. Executioner was drunk,after the fifth stroke a Yeoman finished him off”.

Yike.


60 posted on 05/20/2021 12:15:09 PM PDT by Beowulf9
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