[CheshireTheCat]

Not to dispute what you have written, but much of what I post on FR I post so that readers of FR have information to bring up when they get the chance to try to get some of these dimwits to think.

[fhayek]

I agree. And I used to think you could reason with these people. But I refer your to fhayek immutable law #4 (submitted by Jonathan Swift):

"It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"