Posted on 03/29/2021 8:01:28 AM PDT by w1n1
[[my mind is still unable to comprehend what “enjoyment” can be had from killing a living creature doing nothing other than what it has to do to survive. ]]
What did you have to eat today? An y meat? Those animals sat you ate were just “standing around just trying to survive too”
Are you a vegan? If so, what did those greens ever do to you to cause you to want to consume them? They were just hanging around, surviving, until some mean farmer came along and ripped them fro their roots, sent them through tunes. Tubs, spraying, etc, then into neat little bags for the veggie choppers to consume without getting their hands dirty. Plants have “feelings” too. It’s a fact.
Ranchers “enjoy” ranching too, are they monsters? Pig farmers enjoy their work and the money they get fro it
. Are fishermen monsters for catching food for others?
Varmint hunting keeps predators in balance, and yes, it is enjoyable to hunt, being outdoors, tracking animal habits, learning about their ehaviors, learning where they are at certain points, perfecting shooting skills, selling the fur making some good money. Th8e folks that hunt them don’t simply drive up to a shooting range, sit in their vehicles and start blasting at defenseless animals out their vehicle windowa. There is a lot to hunting that is very enjoyable, even if one doesn’t get a shot all season at vermin or predators. Getting a shot is just, and harvesting a predator in a culling manner to ,eep populations fro exploding and decimating the wild game industry is the payoff for all the hard enjoyable work that goes into the effort.
Hunters don’t understand your enjoyment of sitting at a computer, that uses fuel and trees, and coal etc to run the online industry, complaining about them being outdoors and enjoying being a vital part of game management
“Yep. Never seen it and never kept livestock. You are forgiven for being ignorant. Try not to make a display of it.”
So in other words, YOU are unable to build a structure for your hens that a fox cannot gain entry to, so your alternative is to kill any fox you might see and hope that one doesn’t slip past you and kill your hens. Yea, that’s real intelligent.
“Pretty sure you’ve never had a hen house.”
Again, seems more like YOU have a problem keeping hens safe from predators so you think the answer is to just kill the predators you see and hope for the best. Again, YOUR failure.
Browning 22-250 caliber. Tack driver.
Such a structure does not exist
“What did you have to eat today? An y meat? Those animals sat you ate were just “standing around just trying to survive too”
I already stated, I was not addressing the “for food” or removing a dangerous animal from places it should not be.
“Are you a vegan? If so, what did those greens ever do to you to cause you to want to consume them? They were just hanging around, surviving, until some mean farmer came along and ripped them fro their roots, sent them through tunes. Tubs, spraying, etc, then into neat little bags for the veggie choppers to consume without getting their hands dirty. Plants have “feelings” too. It’s a fact.”
Blah, blah, blah...nothing to do with this discussion.
“Ranchers “enjoy” ranching too, are they monsters? Pig farmers enjoy their work and the money they get fro it
. Are fishermen monsters for catching food for others?”
Ditto.
“Varmint hunting keeps predators in balance, and yes, it is enjoyable to hunt, being outdoors, tracking animal habits, learning about their ehaviors, learning where they are at certain points, perfecting shooting skills, selling the fur making some good money. Th8e folks that hunt them don’t simply drive up to a shooting range, sit in their vehicles and start blasting at defenseless animals out their vehicle windowa.”
I think you might be surprised at how often that happens.
“There is a lot to hunting that is very enjoyable, even if one doesn’t get a shot all season at vermin or predators. Getting a shot is just, and harvesting a predator in a culling manner to ,eep populations fro exploding and decimating the wild game industry is the payoff for all the hard enjoyable work that goes into the effort.”
Most people who kill animals for “enjoyment” believe whatever it takes to support their killing enjoyment. That’s like the Nazi thinking, placing “vermin or predator” into ones mind in order to justify what they just want to do.
“Hunters don’t understand your enjoyment of sitting at a computer, that uses fuel and trees, and coal etc to run the online industry, complaining about them being outdoors and enjoying being a vital part of game management.”
Again, never was referring to game management, just mentally ill brains that like to kill animals for “enjoyment”.
You gonna keep them coupled up in an impenetrable g le cement bunker all the time? That isn’t very nice of you. And just for the record, they don’t call foxes wiley for nothing. Unless you are gonna keep your hens in an impenetrable cement bunker all their lives, foxes and coyotes, and mink, and weasels, and Fischer, and badgers, and all manner of animals WILL get into the coup despite your best efforts to keep them out.
And the bigger predators like coyotes don’t just go after small chickens, they will take anything they can, even bison calves, or sick horses if they can. You gonna keep all these animals in cement prisons too.
Predators are a problem, a big problem, which is why states all allow a hunting season on them which many people enjoy doing.. it’d Good for the environment, it’s Good for wildlife mmanagement and it’s good for a person’s emotional wellbeing to be out enjoying doing what they love in the great outdoors.
Many folks don’t have the emotional hangup that you evidently have about culling predators and nuisance vermin. You don’t live in an area apparently where nuisance Animals are costing you a ton of money every year.
Do you also have hangup about massive overpopulation of rats infesting areas, and folks b e ing called in to cull them too? Or are you picky and choosey about which destructive nuisance animals you like and dislike? Just curious why you think a coyotes is more to be valued than rats, or mice, or cockroachez?
I gave you good advise but you are determined.
I thought you were just ignorant but now you are showing you are just plain stupid.
There is no way to educate you out of that so I will leave you to wallow.
[[Most people who kill animals for “enjoyment” believe whatever it takes to support their killing enjoyment]]
Most people who enjoy it know the facts. You ignore them in your effort to look down on hunters
But this is the issue Freepers are pushing back on. 'Most people' are not Nazi's with a desire to kill or inflict suffering. Your whole rebuttal seems built around the idea that 'most people' are. In the big scheme of things, are the few bad apples that kill animals for fun what you want to spend energy arguing about? How about we focus that energy on the few bad apples who take that killing attitude and start applying it to people, like BLM, Antifa, etc.
Ok, so in your mind farmers are fools. If you can make that accusation, I wont defend you from deserved criticism from others here. You are naive and have likely never had a want or need in your life.
Exactly, most people siml,simply, enjoy hunting. Whether they get the reward for their efforts [bounty on predators, or selling the furs, or eating the meat or whatever] or not is not the issue, it’s the hunting that they enjoy
LOL. Perfect!
“A lot of people ask us why we don’t use fly spray.....Well, where’s the sport in that?”
Fro what I can gather, I think he believes that a “smart farmer” would have cement prisons for all their farm animals to be coupled up in their whole lives. He doesn’t know much about farming if that is indeed his position.
A good shepherd protects his herd...
Coyotes, wolves, armadillos, skunks, possums, wild pigs (our area is over run and fighting wild pigs right now)......... for all of these .... you use whatever rifle you are the most accurate with.
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