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The logical argument that Fauci, Moderna, Pfizer and others may have fabricated fake Covid-19 vaccine trials and reported falsified data
3/24/2021 | vanity

Posted on 03/24/2021 10:34:34 AM PDT by ransomnote

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To: DugwayDuke

You are wasting your breath. Conspiracy theorist will believe what they wish to believe and if you make a focused effort to convince them that they are wrong they pivot to, “Who are you working for?”


21 posted on 03/24/2021 11:11:26 AM PDT by Artemis Webb (Be kind to each other, unless the other guy is a dumbass.)
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To: ransomnote
everybody wants to rule the world.

but THEY patented new ATrocity viruses/vaccines
[dual purpose] making them "GOLD" and powerful


22 posted on 03/24/2021 11:11:47 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Tuitio Fidei et Obsequium Pauperum)
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To: monkeyshine
....There could be many reasons why deaths are declining such as earlier intervention and better treatment protocols....

Regarding the treatment: I've really been wondering about that. Is there more standardization now? Less intubation right away? Are the obese housed in seated positions, or lying on their sides? It does seem the medical care at first was utterly chaotic.

Will we ever know the answers?

23 posted on 03/24/2021 11:12:05 AM PDT by gloryblaze
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To: ransomnote

Excellent article


24 posted on 03/24/2021 11:14:02 AM PDT by silverleaf (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act)
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To: DugwayDuke

Except the over reports are 1600% That means about 35,000 died off the top of my head. Using over reported fake numbers leads people to make wrong conclusions and over estimate their risk.


25 posted on 03/24/2021 11:15:09 AM PDT by cyberstoic (I )
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To: Brian Griffin

Your faith in Corporate America is great. I have no faith.


26 posted on 03/24/2021 11:16:13 AM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: Brian Griffin
However Pfizer is a large reputable company that would not fake a trial.

You know better than that.

I don't disagree with you that the vaccines certainly seem to be working...I have my second shot coming up soon, and I hope it helps rather than hurts.

But to suggest that a "reputable" company wouldn't fake results is to ignore breath-taking conjobs since the origin of trade.

27 posted on 03/24/2021 11:16:16 AM PDT by Fightin Whitey
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To: House Atreides
By the way, may I assume you’re paid by the word and not by the scientific correctness of your jihad?

You may not, Harkonnen.

Go get your vax and leave real people alone.

And don't forget to mask up, its a scary world out there right about now.


28 posted on 03/24/2021 11:18:22 AM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: Fightin Whitey

Pfizer is also the company that used eminent domain (after bribing local and state officials) to kick property owners off their land in New London, CT in the horrid Kelo decision of the Supreme Court.

Then, after kicking the folks off their property, they decided not to use it and sold it off to others.

Pfizer is scum.


29 posted on 03/24/2021 11:19:15 AM PDT by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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To: DugwayDuke
Over 500,000 dead.

And who told you that?


30 posted on 03/24/2021 11:19:52 AM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: cyberstoic
There is a huge hole in the parking lot where I work. It is an elephant trap to stop elephants. We have never seen an elephant. It totally works.

You are my hero.


31 posted on 03/24/2021 11:21:22 AM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: semimojo

“ Many more people who got the placebo had symptoms”

Minor cold symptoms - so who cares? Look at the trials reports on severe symptoms. The number of instances are more for placebo, but both arms are minuscule. Scale matters.


32 posted on 03/24/2021 11:22:05 AM PDT by ReaganGeneration2
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To: Tellurian
I've had to conclude that false positives are uncommon...

I think you shoulda concluded that false positives are uncommon WITH YOUR SISTER-IN-LAW.

Or something about elephants. Or something.

I wonder what year they stopped teaching logic in schools?


33 posted on 03/24/2021 11:24:27 AM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: gloryblaze
Is there more standardization now? Less intubation right away?

Outside of my professional wheelhouse but from what I can gather, yes! When our 'thought leaders' were screaming about more ventilators Trump ran out and forced new production. By the time they came online it was apparent that 80% of people put on them died. Not to say the ventilators themselves were the problem but certainly evidence of zero to negative effect.

It is my understanding they are using, in the most severe hospitalized cases, a regimen of intravenous anti-virals, steroids, fluids, vitamins and minerals as one might use to fight any viral infection or severe flu. But you'd have to check, I think there is still no standard protocol used universally and that's the fault of the CDC/NIH (Fauci!) who bet the farm on vaccines and spent next to nothing on treatments throwing everyone under the bus for a year.

I'll add there is more awareness of and use of ivermectin (and maybe HCQ+ therapy) earlier in the disease cycle, again after a year of a massive institutional push to try to classify these very old, very safe, widely used medications (both of which are classified by the WHO as essential medications for every country to have stockpiles) as some kind of danger to humanity.

34 posted on 03/24/2021 11:26:29 AM PDT by monkeyshine (live and let live is dead)
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To: ransomnote

The trials did not rely on PCR tests, (which you sometimes call PRC). So this whole post is not relevant. They are based on comparing those vaccinated against unvaccinated controls, for symptoms, hospitalization and death, as well as test results (which does include PCR tests, as well as antibody tests)

“Given that the CDC says samples of isolated Covid-19 virus has never been “available” to researchers, how can the vaccine trials prove the efficacy of the vaccines against the Covid-19 virus?”

From exposure to virus in the wild, like everyone else (including the control group).

Those vaccinated are dramatically less likely to develop COVID symptoms, be hospitalized or die - independent of PCR testing.

Those are the metrics of effectiveness.


35 posted on 03/24/2021 11:26:51 AM PDT by BeauBo
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To: cgbg
Criticize me all you want—but do what I say!

I will (criticize you all I want), and I won't (do what you say).

I am the best writer that was ever on the earth, and you will do what *I* say.


36 posted on 03/24/2021 11:27:33 AM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: House Atreides
A better name to call us is “no kool-aid drinkers”. We refuse to be gaslighted by false statistics and fear mongering. We refuse to be herded into an experimental vaccine. We refuse to be browbeat by any virtue signaling people like yourself who are willingly ignorant of the global scam that is being perpetrated against free citizens.

Your faith in Government and Big Pharma is admirable, but our faith is in God Given logic, fact, and skepticism. Not in Fauci or Gates.

If you think you are smarter than us, I and many others would gladly challenge anyone here to an IQ test.
37 posted on 03/24/2021 11:29:11 AM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: Artemis Webb
Lemme help you out.

You are wasting your breath. Fearbros will believe what they are told to believe and if you make a focused effort to convince them that they are wrong they pivot to, "You're a conspiracy theorist".

That's what you meant to say, right? Please consult with Sister Mary CBGB for hot tips on how to make yourself understood through the magic of the written word.


38 posted on 03/24/2021 11:31:45 AM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: cyberstoic

“The death rate was falling before the vaccines were widely administered.”

Not true.

The death rate started falling in February, after the Nursing Home population (which had accounted for over 40% of US COVID deaths), had overwhelmingly completed their first shots. https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#trends_dailytrendsdeaths

Since then, we have been progressing through the more populous risk groups, working down the priority list. 70% of Americans over 65 years old now have at least a first shot. Although cases have levelled off in recent weeks, the death rate is declining faster, as the vulnerable are increasingly removed from risk through vaccination.

The vaccination effect is seen even more clearly in Israel, which is 2-3 months ahead of us, in vaccinating their population.


39 posted on 03/24/2021 11:35:01 AM PDT by BeauBo
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To: cyberstoic
That means about 35,000 died off the top of my head.

What were 35,000 people doing on the top of your head?


40 posted on 03/24/2021 11:36:21 AM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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