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Beware of a Biden Tax On Unrealized Capital Gains
Real Clear Politics ^ | 25 Jan 2021 | Andrew Wilford

Posted on 01/26/2021 9:35:30 AM PST by amorphous

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61 posted on 01/26/2021 11:03:50 AM PST by PMAS (Vote with your wallets, there are 80 million of us - No Amazon, No Chy-Na made )
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To: amorphous

Someone is trying to push peoples buttons for a reaction, or they are really effin stupid. There is no way this would be workable.


62 posted on 01/26/2021 11:08:22 AM PST by Magnum44 (...against all enemies, foreign and domestic...)
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To: Jonny7797
I’m betting this plan disallows losses. Just like when you sell your house. Pay on gains, no loss offset.

You may need to see a tax accountant. I was able to write-off losses on the sale of my house and if its a large enough loss, I believe you can span the losses for three years. Don't quote me on the particulars, I'm just going by memory of about 8 years ago.

63 posted on 01/26/2021 11:13:16 AM PST by Go Gordon
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To: amorphous

In today’s environment, that will make the market go up.


64 posted on 01/26/2021 11:23:58 AM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: Daveinyork

I’m a retired CPA, and I can tell you that this would be a bookkeeping nightmare.

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Yep, it’s a complicated scheme to fleece responsible investors out of more of their gains.


65 posted on 01/26/2021 11:30:14 AM PST by Bishop_Malachi (Liberal Socialism - A philosophy which advocates spreading a low standard of living equally.)
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To: amorphous

Schumer is the senator from Wall Street.

In my opinion, he would not allow such a tax.


66 posted on 01/26/2021 12:07:52 PM PST by Brian Griffin
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To: amorphous

Florida once had an intangibles tax of .1 to .2% annually enacted in 1931. On $21,000 of stock, the tax was $22.

I think Pennsylvania still has an intangibles tax.


67 posted on 01/26/2021 12:12:37 PM PST by Brian Griffin
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To: jdsteel

Help I can’t remember the term used when a politician proposes a program and then those affected would rush in with campaign donations to stop it. (Not blackmail)


68 posted on 01/26/2021 12:38:11 PM PST by griswold3 (Democratic Socialism is Slavery by Mob Rule)
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To: Kickass Conservative

“I won’t be selling that Asset. Could be a 1040-.556 Form.”

No.... It’ll prolly be seized and redistributed to those less fortunate.


69 posted on 01/26/2021 12:54:32 PM PST by LastDayz (A blunt and brazen Texan. I will not be assimilated.)
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To: Still Thinking
it appreciates from $50 to $70, you’d have to count the $20 as capital gains and pay tax on it, even though that “gain” is only on paper and didn’t put any cash in your pocket,

That's the key part; instead of paying the tax from profits with actual cash, you would have to finance the tax from other sources. Eventually, you could get to a point where you can't get loans to finance other stuff, because you have spent all of your credit on getting loans to pay taxes. And this would encourage selling off assets to pay the tax, but that works with stocks, not with real estate.

70 posted on 01/26/2021 12:56:18 PM PST by Bernard (“When once the guardian angel has taken flight, everything is lost”. – William H. Seward, 1/12/1861)
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To: amorphous

What if the market is closed on the day a tax period ends? What if experts cannot agree on today’s value of my art? What if I store my valuables overseas? What happens if I sell my valuables to a friend at a very good deal while I buy his for a very good price? How is the government to know of my valuables and where they are stored? This is just off the top of my head without even putting any effort into enforcement issues.


71 posted on 01/26/2021 1:43:24 PM PST by Lockbox
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To: ridesthemiles

That is a wealth tax in a different name.


72 posted on 01/26/2021 1:46:18 PM PST by Texas resident (Biden is China's bitch)
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To: Lockbox

Those are all questions we crypto miners and traders asked when the hammer came down on us. So, someone invented software that tracts the price of practically every crypto coin in existence back in time and will give you the “market price” when you bought or sold for tax purposes. Sure, it’s not 100% accurate, but it seems to have been accepted by the community and the IRS. Because 100% accuracy isn’t possible, either here are in taxing any unrealized capital gain. When I began mining BTC, it wasn’t required to be reported because the price was less than $65, so, I have no basis when selling now. I just report the entire amount sold as a long term capital gain.


73 posted on 01/26/2021 1:54:40 PM PST by amorphous
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To: plain talk

No, you probably would, or at the very least, your basis will now be $70, but they’re hanging a sword of Damocles over their own head. Can you imagine what a stock market crash would do to tax receipts? They’d get nothing, and then they’d be whining that for “essential government services”, (is there such a thing?), they have to raise rates (only to make them even MORE inequitable than they were before).


74 posted on 01/26/2021 2:07:13 PM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: amorphous

Bottom line, governments do not care about accuracy as long as they get what they consider their share....


75 posted on 01/26/2021 2:45:48 PM PST by Lockbox
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To: griswold3

“ Help I can’t remember the term used when a politician proposes a program and then those affected would rush in with campaign donations to stop it. (Not blackmail)”

Graft?


76 posted on 01/26/2021 6:41:01 PM PST by jdsteel ("A Republic, Madam, if you can keep it." Sorry Ben, looks like we blew it.)
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To: SGCOS

didnt clinton suggest something similar? imputed income..if you can rent your house or a room in it, you are taxed on that. whether you rent it or not.


My thoughts went to the same proposal: A tax on imputed income from owning property. Robert Reich, wasn’t it?


77 posted on 01/26/2021 8:31:59 PM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: Ancesthntr

I am convinced that most Dems are economic illiterates.


Until recently, they’ve been campaigning on being illiterate for a few decades. Now they campaign on being evil and illiterate.


78 posted on 01/26/2021 8:35:32 PM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: amorphous
This could lead to some entrepreneurs being forced to sell part of it off prematurely in order to pay the tax bill arising from their unrealized capital gain.

This is what it's all about.

It's about taking generational wealth by slowly forcing its divestiture to pay a theoretical tax.

-PJ

79 posted on 01/26/2021 8:43:11 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (Freedom of the press is the People's right to publish, not CNN's right to the 1st question.)
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To: Political Junkie Too
Agree. It may be how they're planning to take it all. The ultra rich will buy up the wealth of generations for pennies on the dollar, and with dollars printed out of thin air. Many are already buying up ranch and farmland, most recently Bill Gates for example.

Our country's founders warned us about this day...

80 posted on 01/26/2021 8:52:02 PM PST by amorphous
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