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To: ealgeone; Karoo
Karoo: "I have never known why FDR wanted us in a war. Was it to boost the economy?"

eagleone: "I think it was two fold....one was he realized the "New Deal" had failed to end the Depression."

For crying out loud, can we give Marxist economic theory a rest?
I don't care what your professors taught you in school, not everything in life is ruled by dialectical materialism.

In 1940 the US was again doing great economically, without going to war, by supplying the Allies with as much war-material as possible.
FDR did not need for the US to go to war just to achieve full employment.

eagleone: "Second, I think he did recognize Germany was a threat.
Now, the question could be was he influenced by the Communists in his administration to want to attack Germany?"

"Recognize Germany was a threat" is the real heart of it.
A young FDR had been Under-Secretary of the Navy under lunatic President Wilson in the First World War.
Along with several other American leaders (i.e., Gen. Pershing) FDR recognized that Wilson's "peace without victory" policy was pure insanity.
They all knew in 1918 that Germany would be back in twenty years for Round Two.
They understood that Germany needed, needed, needed to be thoroughly, completely & utterly defeated to the point where they'd never, ever raise up their ugly, arrogant & dominating heads again.

Some, like FDR's WWI friend Winston Churchill, warned & warned their own lunatic politicians to beware & be ready, but none of them paid any attention.
Until it was too late.

So why did FDR hate Germans?
Well, for starters, as a boy FDR had travelled & stayed in Germany, he spoke German, and grew to personally dislike German arrogance, belligerence & domineering natures.
Roosevelts were, after all, of Dutch descent and no fans of German imperial ambitions.

As for Stalin's Soviet Union, FDR had no such personal animosity towards Russians and considered them vital allies for victory over Germany.

43 posted on 12/07/2020 2:08:38 PM PST by BroJoeK ((a little historical perspective...) )
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To: BroJoeK

I’ll throw this in here about now...

https://winstonchurchill.hillsdale.edu/sleep-of-the-saved-and-thankful-2/

“I thought of a remark which Edward Grey had made to me more than thirty years before—that the United States is like ‘a gigantic boiler. Once the fire is lighted under it there is no limit to the power it can generate. Being saturated and satiated with emotion and sensation, I went to bed and slept the sleep of the saved and thankful.”


45 posted on 12/07/2020 2:23:57 PM PST by abb
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To: BroJoeK
For crying out loud, can we give Marxist economic theory a rest? I don't care what your professors taught you in school, not everything in life is ruled by dialectical materialism.

The New Deal was failing. That's a fact.

In 1940 the US was again doing great economically, without going to war, by supplying the Allies with as much war-material as possible. FDR did not need for the US to go to war just to achieve full employment.

Well, yes he did.

46 posted on 12/07/2020 2:55:50 PM PST by ealgeone
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To: BroJoeK
"In 1940 the US was again doing great economically..."



No it wasn't, unemployment was at 14.6% and building a solid economy does not comprise of raising government spending (Cooked/built into the GDP) and supplying war materials to Europe. The European skirmishes affected the import/export/general market place for the economy to grow which caused many US businesses owners to push to get directly involved, just like during the Great War.

War is awful for the overall economy, (Certain businesses thrive of course) the only good thing that arises is an end to the warfare so the market place can get back on track.
86 posted on 12/11/2020 9:09:03 AM PST by rollo tomasi
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