BroJoeK, If the US stayed out of the war the only result would be a Nazi victory. You don’t seem to have much imagination. There could have been a stalemate or a Communist victory. Your claim that I openly advocated for a Nazi victory is an attempt to discredit me. There is a direct quote of me advocating Nazi victory. Your “so we’re told” is not very reliable. We are told so many things that are not so. I don’t have “a scenario where the US stays out of WWII, Stalin makes a separate peace with Hitler and yet the Nazis are still somehow defeated.” Do you have a scenario where everyone holds hands and sing Kumbaya?” Lets deal with reality.
Anything less than utter destruction & unconditional surrender was a Nazi victory, leaving them in power for World War Three.
There was no acceptable alternative to Allied victory.
Vehmgericht: "Your claim that I openly advocated for a Nazi victory is an attempt to discredit me."
There is no justice in any court which allows Nazi Germany to survive undestroyed and Nazis still in power.
That court can go straight to h*ll, FRiend.
Vehmgericht: "Do you have a scenario where everyone holds hands and sing Kumbaya?”
Lets deal with reality."
The only scenario I have is the one which actually happened: President Roosevelt made nicey-nicey with "Uncle Joe" Stalin, keeping hundreds of Soviet divisions fighting the Eastern Front and so reducing the number of US divisions (and casualties!) required on the Western Front by at least half.
The result was utter destruction of Nazi Germany, Unconditional Surrender, war crimes trials, Allied Victory & complete freedom for Western Europe (including West Germany).
Eastern Europe did not do so well for the following 50 years, though it is at least arguable whose regime was more beastly, Nazis or Soviets?