Posted on 11/27/2020 5:12:34 PM PST by SkyPilot
You touched on two very important points:
1. Noise from gasoline and natural gas generators
2. Making your home conspicuous because you have power when no one else does
They are key points to consider, and there are many factors such as where you live, who your neighbors are, etc.
If you are powering your condo in an urban setting while the BLM and Antifa folks are out rioting, then you are literally asking for trouble.
But even in a suburban or rural setting, the noise from your generators and having power on will attract people. When we lost power for a week and half after one terrible winter storm, we had neighbors knocking on our door almost immediately after the power went out - holding bags and boxes full of perishables from their freezers and refrigerators, and asking us to keep them fresh for them.
When the power goes out, I can use a solar power station to run my refrigerator and freezers all night. It keeps the noise down, and you don't burn gasoline all night.
In the day, I can power most of my house using a gas generator hooked up to a power transfer switch, which also runs my well pump so I have water (very important).
The great thing about solar power stations is they are completely silent.
Completely agree.
A year ago, folks would laugh and classify that as a "Conspiracy Theory."
After the year 2020, no one is laughing anymore.
Yup - and dangerous.
Depending on how many circuits you want, you can purchase a very good power transfer switch for $350 - $400.
If you are handy with electrics, you can install it right next to your home's electrical panel in about 2 hours. If not, call your friendly electrician and they should charge you a few hundred for installation.
The thing that takes the most time is figuring out what circuits in your house you want to power.
For instance, you will want things like refrigerators, chest freezers, lights and electrical outlets in key areas, electric furnace fans (if you have gas or oil heat), well pumps if you have them, or perhaps outlets near your internet/FiOS/TV.
That's smart.
You have a LOT of power ready to go with those 1.256 KWh banks.
It makes no sense to cut off power on Thanksgiving....none!
Amazing that your ordered the Kohler 10,000 Watt in August, and they are still in backorder.
All deliveries for EVERYTHING is affected by the COVID plandemic.
We ordered some leather furniture awhile back - it took months.
Stay warm on your beautiful lake this winter. And safe.
Shut down power in Hollywood and wherever the celebrities live and see how fast this gets fixed....
Thanks to my fellow Freepers for all the great info. I was afraid that a genny would cost thousands and thousands, which I don’t have.
Wish I’d gotten on the stick and gotten one before the Oct. 26/27 ice storm here in OK. Better late than never, though. :-)
Other than to screw with people, enforce "lockdowns", discourage gatherings, and incrementally condition people to accept "rolling blackouts" (as they have in Cuba, China, and North Korea) as the norm.
Important to explain why besides being illegal it can be deadly dangerous for the power company employees.
I believe the solution is quite easy, just shut off your main power panel switch before applying your emergency power system to your panel. That keeps your emergency power from going OUT of your house and reverse powering the grid.
Your power wouldn’t go far I suspect but it is still a danger and power companies have rules against it. Most would have a switching system you can add to your panel that would automatically cut your main panel switch so you are only powering your house.
that would be the 2200 watt variety. Don’t store them without running them out of fuel. The carburetors tend to gum up rather easily, and then you have an expensive paper weight.
You’ve already shown that you’re a jerk and an idiot. Don’t double down. Only a dummy references “preventing and even destroying dams and preventing the building of power plants” when that has NOTHING to do with these spot power outages. Do you understand that? It’s about preventing wildfires, stupid as that reasoning might be.
Do you know that more people voted for Donald Trump in California that in Texas? Yet you want all of us to have our power cut. I guess everything is bigger in Texas except brains.
I prefer the panels. We go through periods here in the
Northern Los Angeles area where we have overcast skies for
weeks or over into months here.
my devices take up to 400 watts per hour to refill, and that
means they’ll fill in a little over three hours.
I have to stay under 20 amps.
I’m picking up a 200 watt wind turbine to slowly charge over
24 hours during overcast periods, but often those are dead
calm wind periods also.
I agree with your higher the better thoughts.
We’ll see how that goes.
Thanks for the tip.
I ran down to 1% in on of my units last night. I try not
to go lower than 20%. Oops...
I’m working on an 80/20% model.
This gives me roughly 750 watts to work with. I can charge
more and burn more off if I need to.
I’m pulling in 335 watts per hour right now refilling.
I do, except for heating.
That takes more prolonged power use.
I’m working on a remedy.
What I really like is that I can go outside and fill them
up. Very cool...
I can tell you did your homework,
I also just wanted to quickly share below what I came up with last year in-case anyone else is interested, might save some time,
The price for Solar panels have really come down from even a decade ago and batteries have gotten much more powerful and much longer lasting, the lithium batteries can be drained to 20% unlike older batteries that going below 50% was a problem and they can be cycled 2000-5000 times, thats years of service
Lithium iron phosphate batteries (LiFePO4) are very safe and BattleBorn batteries are top of the line IMO, there are others that you can find online that are built with electric car batteries, they are fairly inexpensive with built-in battery management which is important,
Determine exactly how many watts are needed from the start. Those all in one MPP type Charge controllers systems are good, just be sure to source it properly I’ve read about Chinese fakes, and if building a system from scratch, a 24 volt system may make more sense than a 12 volt,
If you have need of close to 1kw of panels, I recommend the following,
24V Solar System
2 kW Inverter,
2kW Solar Array,
MPPT 60 amp Charge controller
Heres a very good video about a setup similar to mine and has a parts list:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3acQlTZnS4
Renogy solar panels are a little more pricey but I received a broken one in shipping and they immediately sent a replacement for it, so no worries on that front,
Hope this helps,
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