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Vanity: Audio of Phone Call by Vice President Joe Biden as He Threatens Ukraine After Trump's Win
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Posted on 10/24/2020 6:05:33 PM PDT by TigerClaws

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To: TigerClaws

Honestly, I don’t think it says that much.

Biden is basically warning Ukraine to get its IMF loan money before Trump takes office because the loan might be harder to get with Trump if Trump thinks it is a new request.


41 posted on 10/24/2020 7:04:43 PM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Reverse Wickard v Filburn (1942) - and - ISLAM DELENDA EST)
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To: 11th_VA

Please Christian brother and sister...pray RIGHT NOW...STOP what you are doing..kneel down and ask God in the name of Jesus to ‘restore America’ and protect President Trump. Do It NOW... this IS the most powerful HOPE for our Republic...Please ...... PRAY RIGHT NOW.

May God Bless America!

I will repost this MOST critical post ‘repeatedly’ from now until the election. Pray that we all truly begin to pray.

Your brother, in the love of Jesus, RevelationDavid.


42 posted on 10/24/2020 7:05:27 PM PDT by RevelationDavid (Don't just 'know about God'...... KNOW GOD....!)
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To: A_perfect_lady

Why would Joe worry what Trumps perception of Ukraine is going to be unless he’s got a vested interest/and there are shenanigans going on? It’s pretty smoking IMO.


43 posted on 10/24/2020 7:07:25 PM PDT by TeddyRay ( I am a Chump 4 Trump)
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To: coaster123

Sorry if at my age, I could not recover from what Hussien O. did in ‘09.
Wi-Fi is not in my budget.


44 posted on 10/24/2020 7:14:05 PM PDT by Deaf Smith (When a Texan takes his chances, chances will be taken that's for sure)
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To: Alberta's Child
Put these things together and it seems obvious to me that the Trump impeachment fiasco and Joe Biden’s candidacy have been part of a scheme concocted by the Democratic Party leadership for the sole purpose of keeping a lid on the massive corruption among these high-ranking Democrats in their dealings with foreign governments.

I fail to see the logic.

The easiest way to prevent an investigation of Biden's crimes would have been to run a clean candidate -- so investigating Biden would have not had any bearing on the election.

Clean candidates were available.---like that mayor, buttplug? (forgot spelling.).

45 posted on 10/24/2020 7:17:45 PM PDT by mvonfr
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To: mvonfr
Democrats are not about logic.. they are a criminal enterprise... and they controlled all parts of the government process... The man Trump was about to see up, close, and personal their crimes.. there was desperation to cover up.. their methodology was to necklace the outsider (Trump) with the very crimes they have spent decades perfecting.

Al ‘commie’ Franken laid out their operation in his questioning of Jeff Sessions... only banana republics, investigate their campaign opponents... then the hounds from hell were unleashed upon now President Trump accusing him of what they had done, and still continue to do.

46 posted on 10/24/2020 7:30:52 PM PDT by Just mythoughts (Psalm 2. Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing?)
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To: mvonfr
Think of two angles to this:

1. By running Biden as a candidate they insulate him from investigation by playing the card that "the investigation is political!" Mitt Romney has already bought into that line.

2. Running him as a candidate gives Biden two ways out of the mess, especially in this year of chaos and disorder: (A) he wins and it all gets swept under the rug, or (B) the election is contested and he offers to concede in exchange for having the Trump administration sweep it under the rug.

Something else to consider is that they don't have any clean candidates.

47 posted on 10/24/2020 7:31:14 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("There's somebody new and he sure ain't no rodeo man.")
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To: TigerClaws

Yeah I saw the entire OAN Investigates series on this. OAN is the best in my opinion.


48 posted on 10/24/2020 7:34:30 PM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: Alberta's Child

hmm.... yes, possible.

on clean candidates...one can always find one... unless they want to have a controllable candidate, and such cannot be clean.


49 posted on 10/24/2020 7:39:17 PM PDT by mvonfr
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To: radialenginefan

Hunter Biden video-disgust ping!


50 posted on 10/24/2020 7:42:20 PM PDT by Bshaw (A nefarious deceit is upon us all!)
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To: ScottfromNJ

Biden doesn’t care about Ukraine unless it helps him.

This was about protecting himself or getting more CASH before Trump takes over.


51 posted on 10/24/2020 7:45:47 PM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: newzjunkey

Thank you.


52 posted on 10/24/2020 8:57:02 PM PDT by Fedora
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To: Alberta's Child

Agreed. Kerry, Pelosi, Biden all are running Mafia RICO schemes to play traitor for our enemies. As Hillery said,
“Trump wins, we all hang.”

Epstien did not kill himself and Traitors will willingly destroy the Nation to cover their crimes.


53 posted on 10/24/2020 8:57:34 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: newzjunkey
The most innocent reading of Biden's remark is he wants to ensure Ukraine gets its IMF funding before Trump takes over because he thinks an "isolationist" Trump would refuse funding to Ukraine.

That's what I got out of it, and the physical security part would relate to Biden questioning whether Trump would support military aid to Ukraine, which McCain and others were pushing for at that time--for example:

President Petro Poroshenko had a meeting with the delegation of the U.S. Senate headed by Senator John McCain. The delegation included Senators Lindsey Graham and Amy Klobuchar. The President awarded Senator John McCain with the Order of Freedom and presented the Order of Prince Yaroslav the Wise to Senator Lindsey Graham for their significant personal contribution to the enhancement of relations between Ukraine and USA.: The President of Ukraine presented state awards to Senators John McCain and Lindsey Graham (12/30/2016)

Russia is testing President Donald Trump with a surge of violence in eastern Ukraine and the U.S. president should give Ukraine the lethal aid it needs to defend against the attacks, Senator John McCain said in a letter to Trump on Thursday . .Nancy Pelosi, the top Democrat in the House of Representatives, also cautioned the Trump administration on Thursday against easing sanctions on Moscow, saying such a move would be “staggeringly dangerous.”: McCain says Russia testing U.S. in Ukraine, urges Trump to hit back (02/02/2017)

I'm not reading it as pushing for a coverup as much as trying to scare Ukraine into more bribes to offset Trump's alleged isolationism.

54 posted on 10/24/2020 9:07:58 PM PDT by Fedora
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To: SauronOfMordor

I agree as all knew before hand that paying Hunter Biden WAS paying Joe. Joe was never anything but a cokehead bag man to them. H is Hillery and Obama is the big man.

Remember Joe told the Ukrainians call Obama to confirm the threat to withhold Aid if the prosecution was not derailed. They could not have pulled this off without it going to the top AND without the cooperation of Hillery, the Secretary of State.


55 posted on 10/24/2020 9:08:29 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: TigerClaws

Most of the wealthiest ZIP codes in the country are clustered around Washington DC...


56 posted on 10/24/2020 9:10:02 PM PDT by GOPJ (Did John Kerry work Iran on disinformation to hurt Trump? Iran DOES owe Kerry...)
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To: mvonfr

First, the Democrats do not have a clean candidate.

IF they did perchance find a Virgin working in the whorehouse somehow, they could not chance an honest man gaining influence. To great of a chance that someone honest would spill their beans.

Finally Power Freaks NEVER relinquish power to anyone ever. They are corrupt to the core and trust no one. Everyone else is for subjugation.


57 posted on 10/24/2020 9:19:35 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: TeddyRay
Why would Joe worry what Trumps perception of Ukraine is going to be unless he’s got a vested interest/and there are shenanigans going on? It’s pretty smoking IMO.

Poroshenko may have asked for advice, and Biden's giving it, simple as that. I think we are interpreting it the way we want to.

I am hoping that the Bobulinski fellow will be more helpful. The info about Joe and Hunter setting up shell companies so foreign agents can get US contracts is going to be far more useful, I think. But as for this, as long as they can provide a spin ("Prosecutor Shokin was corrupt") to keep up the narrative that the whole Ukraine thing was on the up-and-up, I have a feeling we aren't going to get anywhere with this.

58 posted on 10/25/2020 1:48:53 AM PDT by A_perfect_lady (The greatest wealth is to live content with little. -Plato)
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