Posted on 10/23/2020 7:30:30 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
It is well documented, that immigration actually hurts most the people with the same ethnic background as the immigrants. Hispanics illegals are stealing jobs mostly from Hispanics citizens e.g.
Major immigration raids against companies full of illegals helped black unemployment as these companies were now forced to hire US citizens.
And the illegals are not voting in huge numbers.
For better or worse apparently black rappers carry weight within the black community.
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Other blacks who are admired are also weighing in on the failures of the Democrat Party (e.g., Herschel Walker). Their views are getting some traction.
Conservatives are voting for Trump.
Anyway he has put a face and bio to a realeased convicted felon now contributing to society. Conservatives are not against that.
Mon 10/19 – 25%
Tue 10/20 – 24%
Wed 10/21 – 31%
Thu 10/22 – 37%
Fri 10/23 – 46%
If a group of people changes their opinion that drastically, I wonder what is really happening. Bad polling, silly people who have no judgement, people just started paying attention, Biden scandal, or 50 Cent’s endorsement?
I’d like to believe this, but polls show Trump winning between 6 and 12 percent of the black vote.
Who did Rasmussen poll? Rap producers? Boxing promoters with gigantic, straight-up afros?
That was no gaffe; that was a tactical error. The Big Guy was being sarcastic, which might have worked for a younger man. Unfortunately for him, he came off looking confused.
Are we demeaning black people by saying that the way to win their votes iis to release felons early?
Why would someone - black or white - who lives in a high crime area want more criminals on the street?
Conservatives are voting for Trump.
Those who go to the polls. But how many are going to be motivated to vote, by Trump’s message, “I’m letting more people out of prison than Obama/Biden did”.
So true. But fortunately, there are at least more blacks who see through it now.
There have always been blacks like Thomas Sowell, Herman Cain, and others like them who have seen through it, but now it has filtered into the black mainstream.
If true, and I think it is, that is a real problem for the Left. It isn’t just that they lose those votes, it is that they lose them and we gain them...by and large, a zero-sum game.
They are going to have to make up those votes somehow, and they won’t get them by appealing to the stupid “undecideds”.
When you read the stories of those who are commuted you see stories of true redemption.
It’s not just random releases but people who truly made the most of their time in prison and are strongly rehabilitated.
I don’t see his support among blacks being anywhere near 46% - there have to be some errors in sampling, etc.
However, if it is even 16%, this election is OVER! He got about 11% in 2016, so if similar numbers vote (16.5 million, roughly 60% turnout), that means an extra 800,000 votes nationwide. But I also think that there are probably a lot of blacks who may not be able to pull the trigger on voting for any Republican (let alone Trump), but who either despise Biden for the ‘94 Crime Bill and his racial comments over the decades or feel utterly indifferent about him, and that says that there will be an even lower turnout. That will crush the Dems. So, instead of the Dems getting 89% of 16.5 million votes (14.685 million), they might get 84% of 16 million (13.44), a decrease of roughly 1 1/4 million votes nationwide. That’s gotta hurt, that’s going to swing at least one or two states to Trump.
The big need today is to lower crime rates - especially murders in our cities.
Releasing felons early is not high on my my priority list. I wish Trump had talked about locking up all the criminals who are causing havoc in Chicago, Oakland, etc, instead of bragging that he’s released more felons than Obama did
RE: I’d like to believe this, but polls show Trump winning between 6 and 12 percent of the black vote.
So, it’s those polls vs. this poll.
You get a 46% approval among blacks and then only 6 to 12% will vote for Trump?
Both polls can’t be right can they?
I guess we have no other choice but to look at the Track record of polls.
Which poll was more accurate in 2016? Rasmussen or the other polls tha showed Hillary winning by double digits?
“Serving 20-25 years on a drug rap while people who take a human life routinely serve 7 makes no sense.”
Hard to say. Many conservatives that are strong on individualism and have some libertarian tendencies, think it is horrible to lock people away for drug use and possible addiction. It is bad for the individual long term and wastes a ton of taxpayer dollars.
blacks like Thomas Sowel
Does Sowell call for releasing felons early? When Trump brags about doing that, he is taking a page from the liberal narrative, not from Thomas Sowell
There’s too much Ivanka in some of Trumps campaign rhetoric and strategy. I hope it doesn’t defeat him by lowering the enthusiasm and turnout of working class whites
RE: He got about 11% in 2016
According to NBC, Trump got 8% of black votes in 2016.
See here:
(EXCERPT)
Trump claimed 29 percent of the Hispanic vote on Tuesday compared to Romney’s 27 percent in 2012. With blacks, exit polls show Trump claimed 8 percent of the vote to the previous Republican nominee’s 6 percent.
Also because of the format, all comedic timing was lost by the time he said it. Sounded out of left field.
even half is a political death blow to the left
With crime soaring in our inner cities, I am skeptical that Trump wins much support by bragging that he lets more people out of prison early than Obama did.
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