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I really like this idea from Kurt Schlichter: “student loans need to come from the school and to be dischargeable in bankruptcy”
Wordpress ^ | July 9, 2020 | Dan from Squirrel Hill

Posted on 07/09/2020 6:10:09 AM PDT by grundle

I really like this idea from Kurt Schlichter: “student loans need to come from the school and to be dischargeable in bankruptcy”

Kurt Schlichter just wrote this excellent column, with a whole bunch of ways to improves colleges.

Of Schlichter’s many excellent ideas, this one is my favorite. He wrote:

Third, student loans need to come from the school and to be dischargeable in bankruptcy. A school is going to be a lot less eager to say, “Sure, go ahead and major in Norwegian Feminist Dance Theory” if they are on the hook when their ardent young scholar can’t get a gig that can pay back the sticker price.

That’s brilliant – absolutely brilliant.

I hope Schlichter’s idea gets adopted as national policy.


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To: Fido969

An alternative would be to have the school co-sign for the loan. Student doesn’t pay, the college eats it.

Another variation: too high a default rate, and the college loses eligibility for student loans.


41 posted on 07/09/2020 12:54:26 PM PDT by SauronOfMordor (A Leftist can't enjoy life unless they are controlling, hurting, or destroying others)
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To: Vermont Lt
The schools would be able to secure loans based on the future cash payments. If the students don’t pay...everyone loses.

Except the student who just discharged his loans through bankruptcy.

42 posted on 07/09/2020 12:55:04 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg

The objective is to have no more student loans in majors that have high default rates.

Also, no more student loans to people who are unqualified to be in college in the first place.


43 posted on 07/09/2020 12:56:47 PM PDT by SauronOfMordor (A Leftist can't enjoy life unless they are controlling, hurting, or destroying others)
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To: Macoozie
Car companies finance their cars. For many, just as much as 4 years at a state school.
Let schools finance their product.

Don't make your car payment and they take their car back. Don't pay your student loan and what do they take?

44 posted on 07/09/2020 12:57:02 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: grundle

And here I was just suggesting that the colleges be on the hook for the first 30% of which could be subject to bankruptcy. Schools with endowments over X amount being on the hook for 100% would be great.


45 posted on 07/09/2020 12:58:04 PM PDT by Revolutionary ("Praise the Lord and Pass the Ammunition!")
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To: aquila48
Student loans would suddenly dry up and all the ethnic, feminist, queer studies, etc would disappear.

As well as engineering, medicine, science, and business.

46 posted on 07/09/2020 12:59:19 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: SauronOfMordor
The objective is to have no more student loans in majors that have high default rates.

The result would be no more student loans period. If a graduate, any graduate, can discharge their student loans through bankruptcy then what student regardless of major is not going to take advantage of that? Run up $500,000 for your medical degree? Declare bankruptcy and it's gone. Your Masters in Electrical Engineering set you back $150,000? Not to worry, file the paperwork and presto! It's history. Student loans become a financial black hole for the university so they're not going to make them. To anyone. Regardless of major.

Or didn't Schlichter think of that?

47 posted on 07/09/2020 1:05:23 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg

“As well as engineering, medicine, science, and business.”

Absolutely not! Banks wouldn’t mind lending to them, especially those with good grades. Those graduates would have no problem repaying their loans.


48 posted on 07/09/2020 1:52:17 PM PDT by aquila48 (Do not let them make you care! Guilting you is how they control you.)
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To: aquila48
Absolutely not! Banks wouldn’t mind lending to them, especially those with good grades. Those graduates would have no problem repaying their loans.

Why should they repay them if they can do away with them entirely through bankruptcy? And if nobody is paying back student loans then why would any bank or university offer one?

49 posted on 07/09/2020 2:12:29 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg

By your logic, nobody would have personal loans, or credit card debt, since “it could all be discharged in bankruptcy”.

Bankruptcy is not as easy as you think. You have to convince a judge that your debts relative to your income make them impossible to pay.


50 posted on 07/09/2020 2:38:42 PM PDT by SauronOfMordor (A Leftist can't enjoy life unless they are controlling, hurting, or destroying others)
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To: DoodleDawg

Don’t pay your child support or taxes, and they garnish your wages.


51 posted on 07/09/2020 2:40:50 PM PDT by SauronOfMordor (A Leftist can't enjoy life unless they are controlling, hurting, or destroying others)
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To: edwinland

And of course, no matter how bad a candidate for the school, the school would be required to lend money to anyone.

Yup, there wouldn’t be a school left that was solvent within about 6-8 yrs.


52 posted on 07/09/2020 2:44:32 PM PDT by Professional
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To: Professional

Exactly !!

Anything else would be racist !


53 posted on 07/09/2020 2:49:08 PM PDT by Reily
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To: SauronOfMordor
Don’t pay your child support or taxes, and they garnish your wages.

You can't absolve yourself from responsibility for child support and taxes through bankruptcy. With Schlichter's plan you can get rid of student loans through that process. What student who is not a complete idiot would not take advantage of that?

54 posted on 07/09/2020 3:01:27 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: SauronOfMordor
By your logic, nobody would have personal loans, or credit card debt, since “it could all be discharged in bankruptcy”.

Usually you're talking about much lower amounts and in a lot of cases it is discharged through bankruptcy. And with student loans you're talking about a whole lot more, especially it the other aspects of Schilcter's plan are carried out. If I'm a graduate just starting out with a new M.D. and $250,000 in student loans why would I not declare bankruptcy and get rid of it?

Bankruptcy is not as easy as you think. You have to convince a judge that your debts relative to your income make them impossible to pay.

And bankruptcy lawyers would fall all over themselves to help you through the process.

Schlicter's plan does away with universities completely. If he has his way then what happens next? Where will doctors and engineers and scientists and financial people come from?

55 posted on 07/09/2020 3:06:47 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg

Ok, so make it harder to get out of student loans through bankruptcy. Allow garnishment, etc.

But if the student just cannot pay, then the college should be on the hook ahead of taxpayers.


56 posted on 07/09/2020 3:14:15 PM PDT by SauronOfMordor (A Leftist can't enjoy life unless they are controlling, hurting, or destroying others)
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To: SauronOfMordor

And it doesn’t need to be all students. Say only 15% skip out on their student loans by declaring bankruptcy. That will still make student loans so risky that no lender would want to be involved with them. Or make student loans so expensive that no student could afford them. Either way there will be no loans from universities or any other source.


57 posted on 07/09/2020 3:14:35 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: grundle
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58 posted on 07/09/2020 3:15:38 PM PDT by Pajamajan ( Pray for our nation. Thank the Lord for everything you have. Don't wait. Do it today.)
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To: SauronOfMordor
Ok, so make it harder to get out of student loans through bankruptcy. Allow garnishment, etc.

Which is pretty much the current system.

And besides, that is not what Schlichter is suggesting. He is advocating getting rid of the whole responsibility through bankruptcy. That would kill student loans completely.

But if the student just cannot pay, then the college should be on the hook ahead of taxpayers.

Then why should colleges assume the risk?

But if all of Schlichter's suggestions were adopted there would be no universities to begin with so no student loans to worry about.

59 posted on 07/09/2020 3:19:05 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg

Then colleges can either go out of business, or streamline themselves so tuition is more affordable, or adopt other cost saving measures.

The student loan debt overhang is currently over $1.6 trillion.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/zackfriedman/2020/02/03/student-loan-debt-statistics/

I would rather a bunch of colleges go under, than have taxpayers be forced to pay it.


60 posted on 07/09/2020 3:46:40 PM PDT by SauronOfMordor (A Leftist can't enjoy life unless they are controlling, hurting, or destroying others)
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