[Penelope Dreadful]

Same back at you! I am still waiting for a cause of death to be released. And video of what happened immediately before the knee went on the neck.

[grey_whiskers]

It doesn't matter what happened before.

This wasn't a split second thing.

None of the ex-cops clothes are disheveled, nor their hair.

Several of the ex-cops had their backs turned to the guy as their partner killed him.

If the victim was a thread, the lookout ex-ccps would still have been helping subdue him, or at least facing the threat.

Once he's on the ground, and cuffed and unarmed, deadly force is out of the question.

Deliberate, cool, self-masturbatory, enjoying it, murder, from every video I've been able to see. And who in HELL puts their hands in their pockets while asphyxiating an unarmed victim?

[HollyB]

The method this cop used is not part of any police protocol. Then to put his hands in his pockets showed just how pompous he really is.

It does not matter what occurred. He was not reacting in a threatening way at all while in the ground. If the cop feared for his life ( while this man who was handcuffed behind his back ), I’m sure he was taught other measures than to put body weight on someone’s neck for 5-7 minutes.

And even more so if the cop thought he was under the influence, that means Floyd was even more vulnerable.