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Sounds like he looked over his daughter's shoulder as she was doing her online classes and saw all the propaganda he was paying for and got POed.
1 posted on 05/06/2020 11:10:55 PM PDT by CheshireTheCat
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To: CheshireTheCat

Universities have become money-making institutions that benefit from putting young people with no money into debt.


2 posted on 05/06/2020 11:14:09 PM PDT by Telepathic Intruder
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My landlord is taking on-line courses working towards his masters degree.
He said the on-line courses are more demanding because they require the student to do more actual reading and little to no lectures.
His take is the students are getting PO’d because they actually have to work and learn in order to pass the classes.
Also no parties and hanging out in overpriced bistros.
I tend to agree with him.


3 posted on 05/06/2020 11:22:12 PM PDT by oldvirginian (Oh what fresh hell is this!?!)
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Better yet, sue China.


4 posted on 05/06/2020 11:24:53 PM PDT by Fresh Wind (This tagline is an advertisement-free zone. Is yours?)
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To: CheshireTheCat

No, listening to those instructors in person is far worse. Being discovered by the instructors is even worse than that for conservative students.


5 posted on 05/06/2020 11:28:38 PM PDT by familyop (Hell hath no fury like a scorned parrot.)
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I loved online classes since I never paid attention in class anyway. Taught myself using the books.


6 posted on 05/06/2020 11:41:27 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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My son’s Calculus 3 course went from “live” to online. The videos he has to watch are not from his professor. There is no opportunity to ask questions. There are no study groups because the university is closed. Everyone’s grades have dropped significantly since the course shifted to online. A number of students have since dropped the course. Final exam is next week.


7 posted on 05/06/2020 11:44:08 PM PDT by Cowboy Bob (Mocking Liberals is not only a right, but the duty of all Americans.)
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It takes a long time to set up a distance learning curriculum (I'm in a position to know) and quite a bit of that is training the instructors to cope with the new environment. There was no time for most institutions this time around to do that; some who had already entered the field found it easier than others who had to deal with crash programs. Which they had better do better, because this is the new face of higher education in the United States, like it or not.

It isn't the students - it's child's play (literally) to those who were brought up on Pokemon and MMORPGs. It isn't the curricula either - some of the best implementations I've seen are in ancient history. It's the professors. They talk a good game but believe me, they do not like change.

10 posted on 05/06/2020 11:58:10 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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Sounds like he looked over his daughter's shoulder as she was doing her online classes and saw all the propaganda he was paying for and got POed.

No, I think not.

(My 21-year-old daughter is currently in her sixth semester in Allgemeine Linguistik at the prestigious Eberhard-Karls-Universität [Tübingen], and is likewise forced to attend only online courses.)

Rather, he noted that he is paying "top dollar" for his daughter to enjoy the "full-package" experience of attending a first-rate university, but that she is, instead, essentially receiving only the same experience she could have had by taking correspondence courses from the University of American Samoa ("Better Call Saul" reference) or from the Colombia University ("Community" reference).

Regards,

11 posted on 05/07/2020 12:10:36 AM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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Just watching documentaries and You Tube videos will give you a better education than an online university course. He paid for an in person education. He is not getting what he paid for. This is first year contracts stuff. . Just because the university was shut down by the idiots in Washington or wherever does not absolve the university from paying back what they took when they can’t provide what they contracted to provide.

The contact has been breached. The university must refund the money it took.

On the other hand, if the money is returned then the university would not be required to give the student any credit for taking the classes. That might be a disincentive to demanding the money back.


12 posted on 05/07/2020 12:18:55 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (Freep mail me if you want to be on my Fingerstyle Acoustic Guitar Ping List)
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I have two daughters. One thrives with online classes, one not so much. When you make your schedule you choose online or in-person. I understand this wasn’t planned for but some students are probably really struggling. Some just aren’t doing the work. Either way, it’s not what they paid for and no college would let them choose to change format mid-term. Some are paying $50,000 in tuition alone.


18 posted on 05/07/2020 2:27:30 AM PDT by MacMattico
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Anyone paying 50,000 per year for the whole college experience is getting ripped off with online schooling.


19 posted on 05/07/2020 3:33:58 AM PDT by UnwashedPeasant (Trump is solving the world's problems only to distract us from Russia.)
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Why is the father suing rather than the daughter? Isn't she the adult the college is performing the service for?

The room and board should be a no-brainer refund. If the college is delaying repaying it they are as crooked as airlines or Ticketmaster refusing refunds.

One problem for the colleges is that students might start asking "Why am I taking this class or even all my classes at Local State U instead of picking and choosing the best course in the world for each subject? Why take my physics class from the local professor who is resentful having to waste his time teaching an undergrad class or the PhD student actually teaching it when you can get the modern equivalent of Richard Feynman?" This might shatter the current university system.

23 posted on 05/07/2020 3:57:07 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Parachutes are only anecdotally effective due to the lack of significant double blind testing.)
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George Washington U jacked up tuition to make itself looked more exclusive. It was able to attract dumb rich kids. It has a 42% acceptance rate comparable to University of Maryland. The stupid parent was already paying for a overpriced “education”.


26 posted on 05/07/2020 4:32:18 AM PDT by C19fan
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The issue is, no weed at home, no kegs at home, no random sex at home, no constant communist indoctrination at home - why pay $65 000 for that?


31 posted on 05/07/2020 5:55:52 AM PDT by Jim Noble (There is nothing racist in stating plainly what most people already know)
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On the other hand, 90% of the classes they teach now are useless, even if you are in the class.

My son is doing engineering, and those online classes are testing actual knowledge, but his other classes are just stupid paperwork exercises.

The important thing is to get the degree, nobody really cares how you did in bowling or international studies.


38 posted on 05/07/2020 12:49:10 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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I wish someone would start a class action lawsuit for local school tax payors. The schools have been closed for 1/3 of the year.


39 posted on 05/07/2020 12:50:52 PM PDT by 1Old Pro (#openupstateny)
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