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I'm not telling any police officer to disobey a direct order, but come on!! When did common sense and OFFICER DISCRETION go out the window?? His shirt blew in the wind the cops saw his weapon and arrest him in a state where you can open-carry!
1 posted on 04/28/2020 11:21:15 AM PDT by USA Conservative
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I don’t blame the cops. They have to follow orders. It’s the corrupt administrations that tell them to shred all our rights and turn the state into a fascist enclave.


2 posted on 04/28/2020 11:32:48 AM PDT by I want the USA back (I fear my government more than the bug. I hate that which makes me afraid. And the media.)
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the one video showed him being arrested- his shirt, a T-Shirt type shirt- was tucked into his pants all while he was being taken down- So I’m at this point- until i see other evidence- doubting the ‘His shirt blew up in the wind” UNLESS he had an over-shirt on that got ripped off?

Seems like there’s possibly more to the story right now- the video only shows him getting arrested- not what happened before- if anything-


3 posted on 04/28/2020 11:35:05 AM PDT by Bob434
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I don’t know about this particular case. So my post here is not meant to apply to it.

As a general comment, I know some concealed-carry guys who will “accidentally” reveal their concealed weapons. I guess it’s some sort of ego thing.

If your gun is supposed to be concealed, conceal it. It’s your responsibility, period.


4 posted on 04/28/2020 11:35:22 AM PDT by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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The Solzhenitsyn Line is a very dangerous line to cross.

We are getting closer:

“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family?

Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?...

The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin’s thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If...if...We didn’t love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation.... We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.”


5 posted on 04/28/2020 11:39:13 AM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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That might seem like common sense, which I wouldn’t depend on, but open carry being illegal in Denver he put himself at the mercy of the officer’s discretion, the law outside Denver being irrelevant.


7 posted on 04/28/2020 11:48:35 AM PDT by SJackson (Suppose you were an idiot, suppose you were a member of Congress; but I repeat myself, Mark Twain)
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how do you younger folks handle all this commie hand hanging over our country.. ready to seize power at any chance.

i come from where churches were respected.. schools had prayer.. people got along.. did deals with a handshake.. your word was valuable. our doors were not locked.. kids played outside in the neighborhood.. we didn’t play internet games and got along withou cell phones. we ate around the table as family and we all worked as kids and on into adulthood.

it seems there is no foundation for today’s young people. how do you do today’s living?


8 posted on 04/28/2020 11:49:20 AM PDT by frnewsjunkie
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It is hard to know exactly what happened. However, the police had better be careful - the left already hates them, and they are quickly losing the support on the right of many whose eyes have been forever opened that the police are not their friends.


9 posted on 04/28/2020 11:55:56 AM PDT by Codeflier (Covid-19 taught me: Two types of "conservatives", frightened safety seekers vs. freedom lovers)
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“He is a permitted carrier.”

Denver has an open-carry prohibition, which means you cannot openly carry a weapon anywhere in Denver, including at the Capitol. He broke the law along with another unrelated arrest of someone else for the same thing. He should have done his research before he walked into the city and he would have known the carrying of a weapon was not going to be allowed. And having it seen by law enforcement accidentally is worse.

rwood


11 posted on 04/28/2020 12:06:26 PM PDT by Redwood71
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Those links seem to require an account. I can’t view them


16 posted on 04/28/2020 12:58:52 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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I saw the video which showed a man on the ground being arrested by the Police. I heard a lot of shouting which sounded like “sovereign citizens” protesters or “anti-fa”.
It’s hard to tell the difference, sometimes.

What I didn’t see was why the confrontation happened in the first place.
Did the police shout” GUN” and then run over and tackle the guy or did they walk over calmly and ask for his ID and CCW card.

Some people start confrontations by telling the police they are doing nothing wrong and refuse to show anything ( I mean I have a 2nd Amd. right to carry, OK.)
But of course the police won’t know if your a felon or have a CCW card if you refuse to show them ID.

The police do have some responsibility to make judgement calls.
If you went to eat out with your family and saw a group of muslim men get out of a van all armed and wearing head scarfs and start toward the restaurant you might want a nearby police officer to contact the group to see what was happening. I mean you wouldn’t start shouting at the cops for being racist, islamaphobes because some incidents can cause alarms going off in rational people.

Even if the group of men were all legally armed and no felons in the group you would expect them to co-operate with the police and show ID’s.
I don’t know what went on in Denver but I’d like to hear more before jumping on the police about trampoling rights.


17 posted on 04/28/2020 1:00:55 PM PDT by VicVanleeuwenhoek
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18 posted on 04/28/2020 1:21:21 PM PDT by RasterMaster ("Towering genius disdains a beaten path." - Abraham Lincoln)
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Please ping me if you hear the upshot on this case (if you'll excuse the expression).

Leni

22 posted on 04/28/2020 2:07:56 PM PDT by MinuteGal (MAGA !!! MAGA !!! MAGA !!!)
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