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Mailchimp deplatforms Stefan Molyneux after allegations from activist
Reclaim the Net ^ | January 14, 2020 | Tom Parker

Posted on 01/15/2020 6:13:52 AM PST by karpov

Email marketing service Mailchimp has terminated the account of Stefan Molyneux, host of the philosophy show Freedomain, after a complaint from Nandini Jammi, co-founder of activist group Sleeping Giants.

Mailchimp appears to have made the decision largely based on this complaint from Jammi which alleges that Molyneux is a white nationalist who promotes eugenics and race science. Molyneux denied these allegations but Mailchimp decided to terminate his account anyway and thanked Jammi for “bringing this to our attention.”

Some existing customers of Mailchimp are shocked that the company appears to terminate its customers’ accounts based on as little as a single complaint.

“Interesting, my company uses Mailchimp. As Director of IT, I cannot allow us doing business with a company that will just terminate accounts because of the political screeching of some nobody on Twittter. Good luck!” said one Twitter user.

Another Twitter user added that it’s “time for everyone to get rid of mailchimp if it’s that easy for someone to get an account terminated.”

Popular YouTuber Jeremy Hambly from TheQuartering said he has also canceled his Mailchimp account after being a customer for years.

Another Twitter user also criticized Mailchimp for terminating the account and taking the word of a person who uses “bully tactics” to silence those they disagree with – a likely reference to Sleeping Giants’ history of threatening to boycott companies unless they comply with the group’s demands.

Before Molyneux was deplatformed by Mailchimp, Jammi posted a tweet celebrating the impact of Molyneux having his PayPal account terminated.

And now, Jammi is pressuring YouTube to shut his channel down based on more allegations.

(Excerpt) Read more at reclaimthenet.org ...


TOPICS: Computers/Internet; Politics
KEYWORDS: censorship; mailchimp; molyneux; stefanmolyneux
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An argument against political violence is that people should try to use persuasion instead. What happens when one side is able to silence the other?

I am very aware that SPLC is a biased source, but I looked at their page on Molyneux. Assuming they are quoting him accurately, he has said some controversial things I disagree with and some that I agree with. I don't think he deserves to be de-platformed.

1 posted on 01/15/2020 6:13:52 AM PST by karpov
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To: karpov

Male Chimps are known for tossing poop at children and engaging in other embarrassing behavior that red-faced parents have to explain to their bewildered kids on a zoo visit...Oh...”MAILchimp”. Never mind./s


2 posted on 01/15/2020 6:22:47 AM PST by left that other site (For America to have CONFIDENCE in our future, we must have PRIDE in our HISTORY... DJT)
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To: karpov
There is ZERO DIFFERENCE between tech firms deciding who their customers should be based on political and social differences and cake shops deciding who they should serve based on social and political differences.
3 posted on 01/15/2020 6:23:57 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

That is an excellent point, FRiend.


4 posted on 01/15/2020 6:24:54 AM PST by left that other site (For America to have CONFIDENCE in our future, we must have PRIDE in our HISTORY... DJT)
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To: karpov; semimojo

Are you watching SemiMojo?


5 posted on 01/15/2020 6:31:32 AM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no oither sovereignty.")
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To: karpov

” alleges that Molyneux is a white nationalist who promotes eugenics and race science”

Total bullshit! All it takes is an accusation these days. Kind of like an internet Red Flag law.


6 posted on 01/15/2020 6:34:47 AM PST by dljordan
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To: karpov
An argument against political violence is that people should try to use persuasion instead. What happens when one side is able to silence the other?

I am very aware that SPLC is a biased source, but I looked at their page on Molyneux. Assuming they are quoting him accurately, he has said some controversial things I disagree with and some that I agree with. I don't think he deserves to be de-platformed.

I am for freedom of speech on any massive communication systems powered by the internet.

To be otherwise is courting disaster as the goalposts continue to get moved over what is "intolerant" speech.

I have watched homosexuals go from being mental patients locked up in asylums for the good of society to being promoted as "normal" on all the media channels while demanding their buggery be "respected" and anyone punished who does not accept them.

I've seen the goal posts moved. So long as we allow goal posts, they will get moved. The other side will be in control of speech and they will destroy us.

7 posted on 01/15/2020 6:36:01 AM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no oither sovereignty.")
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To: karpov

Thanks for posting. Of course. No Doubt. Don’t speak...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TR3Vdo5etCQ


8 posted on 01/15/2020 6:39:54 AM PST by PGalt (Past Peak Civilization?)
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To: karpov

I recommend that people by new copies of Stefan Molyneux’s books to help support him.


9 posted on 01/15/2020 6:43:17 AM PST by tbw2
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To: karpov

It’s much easier to shut him up than to debate him. It’s an old tactic that worked well for Hitler ....for awhile anyway


10 posted on 01/15/2020 6:49:34 AM PST by excalibur21
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To: karpov

Alinsky’s Rules.......................


11 posted on 01/15/2020 6:50:45 AM PST by Red Badger (Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain.......... ..)
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To: karpov; Drew68

Next Dell won’t sell you a computer because they disagree with your views.


12 posted on 01/15/2020 6:53:03 AM PST by KC_Lion
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To: KC_Lion

This is how “the mark of the beast” is going to work.


13 posted on 01/15/2020 6:55:03 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom; DiogenesLamp
There is ZERO DIFFERENCE between tech firms deciding who their customers should be based on political and social differences and cake shops deciding who they should serve based on social and political differences.

There's some argument about whether sexual orientation is a protected class but otherwise the question is the same:

Can the federal government force a private business to service a customer they don't want to.

If you think Mailchimp has to serve Molyneux then you're arguing for the baker to have to make a gay wedding cake.

14 posted on 01/15/2020 6:57:38 AM PST by semimojo
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To: ProtectOurFreedom; left that other site

There is ZERO DIFFERENCE between tech firms deciding who their customers should be based on political and social differences and cake shops deciding who they should serve based on social and political differences.


Actually, it’s a false surrender monkey Libertarian equivalence. The cake shop is not shutting down speech. The cake shop isn’t cutting access off to basic business functions that will vastly impact the target.


15 posted on 01/15/2020 6:59:20 AM PST by lodi90
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To: lodi90

Indeed. The refusal to bake a cake with an offensive message does not hurt the accuser in the least, as he/she/it is able to go across the street to another bakery.

This is not the same thing as a media platform, which can make or break a person’s career and /or livelihood. Thank you for pointing this out.


16 posted on 01/15/2020 7:02:33 AM PST by left that other site (For America to have CONFIDENCE in our future, we must have PRIDE in our HISTORY... DJT)
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To: lodi90
The cake shop is not shutting down speech.

Neither is Mailchimp. Don't confuse the right to free speech with the right to be heard.

The cake shop isn’t cutting access off to basic business functions that will vastly impact the target.

So the first amendment applies differently depending on the impact of the speech?

17 posted on 01/15/2020 7:05:09 AM PST by semimojo
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To: semimojo

There is a HUGE difference between a platform / utility and a private business. The cake / flower shops never refused to sell their products to people with whom they disagreed. They did refuse to be required to participate in an event with which they disagreed. Big difference.

As for Mail Chimp / Twitter / et al, if they are private companies and can restrict access, then they can also be held liable for content as a publisher. If they want no liability for content, then they are a platform / utility like the phone company and cannot restrict content.

Why the Trump administration has not taken a big stick to this constant abuse is surprising and disappointing.


18 posted on 01/15/2020 7:09:25 AM PST by tcoxaz
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To: semimojo

I see. And what happens when every fascist tech company and payment processor signs up for a social credit system? Then boots every conservative with a “low” score as determined by fascists like Sleeping Giants. Then what?

We need to stop playing libertarian checkers and fight these fascists attacking us for every inch of battlefield. They deserve no quarter because they fully intend to destroy our American Heritage.


19 posted on 01/15/2020 7:14:48 AM PST by lodi90
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To: karpov

F off!!!


20 posted on 01/15/2020 7:18:13 AM PST by Agatsu77
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