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Democrats say the Red Flag database cannot include gang databases
Independent Sentinel ^ | 9/14/2019 | S. Noble

Posted on 09/15/2019 12:54:10 PM PDT by MacNaughton

Democrats advanced a new measure this week to encourage states to pass “red flag” laws. These so-called extreme risk protection orders authorize removing guns and ammunition from individuals deemed as dangerous by some anonymous, unaccountable person, but it would not include the ready-made lists of gang members.

Republicans tried to add an amendment including known gang members, but the Democrats will not permit the inclusion of gang databases. It’s odd since gangs are the ones causing most of the so-called gun violence.

They would agree to include the names of white supremacists, but not other terror groups.

(Excerpt) Read more at independentsentinel.com ...


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To: dfwgator

We are the Freeper gang now.


41 posted on 09/15/2019 1:42:23 PM PDT by ground_fog ( My God this was from today!S)
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To: dfwgator

They are indeed.

And just like the SA (SturmAbteilung), the nazi democrats will murder them all when finished using them, like they did in Germany on the Night of the Long Knives.


42 posted on 09/15/2019 1:44:15 PM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: MacNaughton
They will put in the names of white supremacists people but not other terrorists.

Law-abiding citizens can have their rights violated but not gang members or terrorists.

What about the nation of islam, black panthers, la raza, cair, ect?

They are all OK, just the whiteys get to wear the little yellow star?

I read this chapter in my 1971 High school history book.

"Things" did not go according to plan...

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43 posted on 09/15/2019 1:50:38 PM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: Skywise

Every move, step, and breath that Democrats in power take anymore has with it the eventual goal whether it be 10, 20, 30, or even 50 years from now putting a certain demographic in this country at an extreme risk and being unable to defend themselves.

In short........Democrats want some of us genocided...literally.

There.....I said it.


44 posted on 09/15/2019 1:54:43 PM PDT by MachIV
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To: MacNaughton

Gangs are exempt since they are part of the Democrats’ core constituency.


45 posted on 09/15/2019 1:55:44 PM PDT by Fred Hayek (The Democratic Party is now the operational arm of the CPUSA)
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To: MacNaughton

Gang databases are the biggest “Red Flag” of all.

Make it known that these individuals that make up gangs are under unending scrutiny, and they might not ever become “good citizens”, but they will be the “usual suspects” rounded up.

There is a way to reduce this tarnish of their “stainless” record, you know. Don’t join in gangs, or get out of them at first opportunity and stay out.


46 posted on 09/15/2019 1:59:50 PM PDT by alloysteel (Nowhere in the Universe is there escape from the consequences of the crime of stupidity.)
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To: MacNaughton
Keeping in mind that there are damned few liberal judges who won't think that a gun in a house where children live is anything but prima facia evidence of Red Flag danger:

Should a massive brutal gorilla of a man be allowed to use Red Flag laws to anonymously force the police to disarm his petite wife, who just filed for divorce because he was injuring her and her children?

Yes?
No?

Democrats just checked Yes ✔︎

47 posted on 09/15/2019 2:00:48 PM PDT by null and void (<---powered by warm sunshine and gentle breezes and unicorn farts, don't forget the unicorn farts!)
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To: Innovative

They are only interested in harassing and oppressing law-abiding American citizens. Everything they do proves it.


48 posted on 09/15/2019 2:03:43 PM PDT by bluejean (I'm becoming a cranky old person. It really annoys me.)
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To: txnativegop

I do not remember where it was, but a small town DID abolish their police department.
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That happens frequently. The County Sheriff then takes over.
The town pays them.


49 posted on 09/15/2019 2:05:02 PM PDT by shelterguy
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To: MacNaughton

It is my considered opinion that existing state “Red Flag” laws are unconstitutional in respect of the 2nd, 4th, 5th, 6th, and 14th Amendments to the US Constitution, and will be adjudged so in the near term. I am counting on it!


50 posted on 09/15/2019 2:05:27 PM PDT by Taxman (We will never be a truly free people so long as we have the income tax and the IRS.)
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To: MacNaughton

51 posted on 09/15/2019 2:05:51 PM PDT by BookmanTheJanitor
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To: Innovative

Your second sentence is 100% correct. But it sails right over the heads of the sheep.


52 posted on 09/15/2019 2:08:12 PM PDT by sport
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To: txnativegop

It might have also suffered the always disruptive “brain fart.”


53 posted on 09/15/2019 2:08:23 PM PDT by libstripper (a bit,)
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To: shelterguy

in this case, the state police took over I believe. I want to say it was in Pennsylvania somewhere, I am not sure.


54 posted on 09/15/2019 2:13:04 PM PDT by txnativegop (The political left, Mankinds intellectual hemlock)
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To: MacNaughton

Only criminals and government departments can have weapons... the dream of the dictator class.


55 posted on 09/15/2019 2:19:29 PM PDT by momincombatboots (Ephesians 6... who you are really at war with)
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To: Skywise; SkyPilot; All

As a Life Member of the National Rifle Association, I am very disturbed by the knee-jerk “ban the gun mentality” the LIEberal chattering and professional political classes have brought into the public debate. Thus far, no pundit or politician has suggested any change to our system which would reduce gun violence. Indeed, the “suggestions” and LIEberal “demands” I am familiar with do nothing more than make criminals of law-abiding citizens!

Parenthetically, I believe that IS the REAL LIEberal (both Democrat AND Republican!) intent, and I further believe that they want to ban private gun ownership in the USA.

We must not let them prevail!

I believe that the proper approach to take is to review ALL of the federal “gun” laws now on the books and throw out the unconstitutional ones and the ones (and there are many!) that don’t work. Then seek ways and means to enforce the remainder in a proper and Constitutional manner.

Without a doubt, juvenile record screening, mental health screening and membership in gangs should be in the mix when considering the NICS background check.

Lenient policies and a lack of discipline in our schools and courtrooms are the cause of our difficulties in regards to gun violence and crime, not an absence of laws! We have enough laws; surely we do not need any new ones!


56 posted on 09/15/2019 2:21:44 PM PDT by Taxman (We will never be a truly free people so long as we have the income tax and the IRS.)
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To: Piranha

I doubt that...in cahoots with the alderscum, on the other hand....


57 posted on 09/15/2019 2:22:56 PM PDT by M1903A1 ("We shed all that is good and virtuous for that which is shoddy and sleazy...and call it progress")
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To: txnativegop

Good let this be a deal breaker and kill the Red Flag Laws. Good Bye and Good Riddance to this bad idea.

yup


58 posted on 09/15/2019 2:23:08 PM PDT by samtheman (The drive-by media is the true boss of the democommie party.)
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To: Innovative

[[[NOT include gang databases? They are clearly insane and are not interested in stopping crime.]]]

No they are not. Its to move an agenda. Just like there will never be anything done about the mental health angle.


59 posted on 09/15/2019 2:28:29 PM PDT by headstamp 2 (There's a stairway to heaven, but there's a highway to hell.)
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To: MacNaughton
but the Democrats will not permit the inclusion of gang databases.

Databases are biased, the algorithms used to build them are in fact racist and will target blacks and Hispanics because demographics are not based on social justice criteria....

Heard that on NPR last week.

60 posted on 09/15/2019 2:37:19 PM PDT by Popman
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