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Californians Thrown Curve Ball On Eve Of New Ammo Control
guns.com ^ | June 21, 2019 | Chris Eger

Posted on 06/22/2019 9:47:16 AM PDT by PROCON

California residents, facing a mandatory background check on ammunition sales starting in July, will need to bring an updated ID, passport or birth certificate with them to buy ammo. (Photo: Chris Eger/Guns.com)

With just over a week to go before a looming ammunition control law takes effect, California officials are backing a new requirement that could leave many unable to buy ammo.

Prop. 63, approved by voters in 2016 after an effort by now-Gov. Gavin Newsom, requires a background check be conducted on all sales of ammunition in the state. Set to go live on July 1, the California Department of Justice just over a week ago filed emergency regulations to require a federally compliant California driver license or ID card to legally buy ammo. The problem is, many in the state don’t currently have one of these “REAL ID” cards yet.

“Many Californians do not yet have the REAL ID, and because it’s not required for air travel until Oct. 1, 2020, they have not rushed to get this new license,” says pro-gun California Waterfowl in an alert. “While some have gotten it easily, many have had to wait a month or two for a DMV appointment to get this ID, so it’s unlikely every gun owner could get this ID in time for the July 1 start date of ammo background checks.”

Alternatively, residents who want to buy ammunition under the new requirements can use a passport or birth certificate to vouch for their status, but advocates point out that most people don’t carry such documentation with them on a trip to the local gun store to buy bullets.

“There is no justification for enacting this requirement this close to the implementation date of ammunition background checks, not when it would effectively treat tens of thousands of law-abiding Californians like criminals by preventing them from purchasing guns and ammunition,” said California Waterfowl.

Worse, on the same day the Prop. 63 rules become active, California’s ban on traditional hunting ammunition expands to all game during all seasons. This means that sportsmen who have legacy lead ammo and are looking to be compliant for the upcoming seasons could be refused such a purchase if they don’t have their papers in order.

Meanwhile, according to conservation statistics, in 1970, there were 763,671 hunting licenses sold in California, a figure that nosedived nearly 70 percent to 269,055 last year while the state’s overall population doubled in the same period.

Attorneys representing the California Rifle and Pistol Association and the National Rifle Association on Thursday submitted a letter to DOJ officials protesting the nature of the emergency regulations, arguing they conflict with federal and state law. The proposed emergency reg has an open public comment period that runs through June 21.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Chit/Chat; Politics
KEYWORDS: ammo; ammocontrol; banglist; california; realid
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To: Chode

The image info says it is.


21 posted on 06/22/2019 10:08:51 AM PDT by KrisKrinkle (Blessed be those who know the depth and breadth of ignorance. Cursed be those who don't.)
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To: PROCON

New law doesn’t apply to illegal aliens or criminals. The law was aimed at non-violent citizens. The goal is to take guns from non-violent normal people and leave guns in the hands of violent criminals. Working rather well.


22 posted on 06/22/2019 10:10:00 AM PDT by I want the USA back (The further a society drifts from the truth, the more it will hate those who speak it. Orwell.)
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To: faithhopecharity
When will the damned communists learn that Americans will NOT be enslaved?!

Californians voted for this.

23 posted on 06/22/2019 10:11:51 AM PDT by Drew68
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To: PROCON

“California residents, facing a mandatory background check on ammunition sales starting in July, will need to bring an updated ID, passport or birth certificate with them to buy ammo. (Photo: Chris Eger/Guns.com)”

yaaaaaaahhh, but ask someone to provide ID to VOTE????

Please kalifornia, feel free to &@*#& off!

KYPD


24 posted on 06/22/2019 10:13:07 AM PDT by petro45acp (The mueller stink bomb, an intended distraction from the probe into zippy's deepstate meddling.)
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To: PROCON

Gun owners should have been stockpiling ammo for years now.

NY gun owners should do the same.

There’s not a regulation that Cuomo and the dems have met that they didn’t love.


25 posted on 06/22/2019 10:14:11 AM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: PROCON

Drive to Reno. Pick up a few pallets. Come back and buy several guns from Ca dealers. Buy American made ammo and guns. Send a message.


26 posted on 06/22/2019 10:16:28 AM PDT by samadams2000 (Get your houses in order.)
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To: Big Red Badger
Just got some myself,,, Paid cash, Walked out.

OK, you need to turn yourself in to authorities.

27 posted on 06/22/2019 10:16:45 AM PDT by PROCON ('Progressive' is a Euphemism for <strike>Totalitarian</strike> COMMUNIST)
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To: PROCON

That law does not apply to illegals.


28 posted on 06/22/2019 10:17:50 AM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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To: SauronOfMordor

Can you buy ammo on line????


29 posted on 06/22/2019 10:20:37 AM PDT by Trump Girl Kit Cat (Yosemite Sam raising hell)
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To: fella

Evidently illegals just have to present their EBT cards.


30 posted on 06/22/2019 10:24:22 AM PDT by samadams2000 (Get your houses in order.)
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To: NorthMountain

I resemble that remark, and am quite proud of it.


31 posted on 06/22/2019 10:25:57 AM PDT by kublia khan (Absolute war brings total victory)
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To: PROCON

But God forbid they should have to show any kind of valid ID to vote in these tyrannical f****** who passed laws like this.


32 posted on 06/22/2019 10:28:18 AM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt, The Weapons Shops of Isher)
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To: faithhopecharity
That’s hard to believe...

Requirements include:

Some proof of identity, such as a U.S. birth certificate, valid U.S. passport, employment authorization document, permanent resident card or foreign passport with approved form I-94.

Read more here: https://www.sacbee.com/news/local/article193216929.html#storylink=cpy

33 posted on 06/22/2019 10:28:25 AM PDT by steve86 (Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc O'Morgair (Latin form: Malachy))
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To: Trump Girl Kit Cat
Picked this up quickly on the web.

Can you buy ammo online in CA?

Lucky Gunner is able to ship ammunition to California but starting in 2018, retailers can no longer legally ship to your door: All ammunition must be shipped to a Licensed Ammo Vendor in the state. ... However, these FFLs are only allowed to legally "import" ammunition to California for personal use.

In my state a buyer can order ammo and have it shipped directly to the desired address.

Lucky Gunner is just one of many, many vendors who will ship ammo.

34 posted on 06/22/2019 10:30:45 AM PDT by Fightin Whitey
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To: PROCON

SCOTUS ruled this was illegal decades ago. Someone sue.


35 posted on 06/22/2019 10:31:36 AM PDT by rstrahan
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To: PROCON

What about dem po folks who can’t afford an I.D.? They’re being “disenfranchised” from being able to buy ammunition. This is a violation of their “human rights”.


36 posted on 06/22/2019 10:35:20 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (#NotARussianBot)
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To: SauronOfMordor; All

Many people have, or will, reload their own ammo.


37 posted on 06/22/2019 10:36:41 AM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isnÂ’t common anymore.)
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To: Fightin Whitey

FREEDOM MUNITIONS has a notification about shipping to CA on their website. In CO Fedex drops 1k of 9mm on my porch. Actually I have been getting cheaper at Walmart, usually on way home from range. Always buy more than I shot.


38 posted on 06/22/2019 10:36:51 AM PDT by bravo whiskey (Never bring a liberal gun law to a gun fight.)
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To: Big Red Badger
"Buy
Lots
Of
Ammo Today!"

Yep! I've learned, first-hand, that there is no "shelf life" for unopened cases of ammo... At least for 26-years of storage since BLOATing...

39 posted on 06/22/2019 10:38:13 AM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is Sam Adams now that we desperately need him)
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To: PROCON

Maybe this can be challenged using the same arguments that they use to defend no ID to vote. This requirement disproportionally effects the poor, the elderly, and people with darker skin tones, as well as our new immigrant neighbors.


40 posted on 06/22/2019 10:40:26 AM PDT by hanamizu
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