Posted on 10/15/2018 7:55:37 AM PDT by sickoflibs
PDATE: Some math by the Boston Globe was wrong. See below. It should be 1/1,024.
What do you get when you put Senator Elizabeth Warren and 31 other white people in a room? One whole Native American.
Warren is gearing up for what appears to be a 2020 presidential run. Ahead of such a move, she has decided to settle the question of her ancestry once and for all. Despite her claims, however, I dont think its actually the answer she really wanted. Via the Boston Globe:
Senator Elizabeth Warren has released a DNA test that provides strong evidence she had a Native American in her family tree dating back 6 to 10 generations, an unprecedented move by one of the top possible contenders for the 2020 Democratic nomination for president.
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Bustamante calculated that Warrens pure Native American ancestor appears in her family tree in the range of 6-10 generations ago. That timing fits Warrens family lore, passed down during her Oklahoma upbringing, that her great-great-great-grandmother, O.C. Sarah Smith, was at least partially Native American.
Smith was born in the late 1700s. She identified as white in historical documents, though at the time Indians faced discrimination, and Smith would have had strong incentives to call herself white if possible.
The inherent imprecision of the six-page DNA analysis could provide fodder for Warrens critics. If her great-great-great-grandmother was Native American, that puts her at 1/32nd American Indian. But the report includes the possibility that shes just 1/512th Native American if the ancestor is 10 generations back.
Heres the thing that even a simple Google search will reveal: 1/32 is, at best, a controversial claim of Native American ancestry within the Native American community. While shes not asking for membership to any tribe, the best case scenario for a 1/32 claim is that it makes her like most white people, the vast majority of whom dont identify as Native American.
To say shes anywhere between 1/32 and 1/512 is a laughable claim at best granted, her attempts in the past to prove her heritage, including the infamous Pow Wow Chow recipes, have been just as funny. The problem for Warren is that there is now scientific proof that her claim is more of a joke than anything.
UPDATE: The fractions were off.
BOSTON GLOBE: "Due to a math error, a story about Elizabeth Warren misstated the ancestry percentage of a potential 10th generation relative. It should be 1/1,024."
Saagar Enjeti (@esaagar) October 15, 2018
Cut your losses, Liz.
Fauxcahontas is using the 1 drop rule for Native American ancestry.
So, MAY BE AS MUCH AS 1/1,024. And the margin of error is?
Reminds me of the National Socialists — had to prove your blood was “Aryan” to be a full citizen.
Dems want you to prove you’re part of some aggrieved group by blood or you’re not worthy.
So the results show she’s 99.09% white?
And that’s what passes for Indian these days?
Patent Bullshit...as you expected.
in the range of 6-10 generations ago.
Well there you have it. We all could probably say the same.
RE:”So, MAY BE AS MUCH AS 1/1,024. And the margin of error is?”
+/- 1/256
About as strong as my native american ancestry. Great-whatever grandpa who settled in Jamestowne had to have kids with someone so why not a NA.
Release the actual result so other scientists can make their own conclusions.
One paid persons interpretation is just that.
These DNA companies are a scam
And so the people that profess Lying, Cheating, and the ends justify the means. Expect any thought out person not to immediately recognize this as absolute BullSh!t?
You would have to be an absolute idiot to believe any of this....so. Bring in the Fake News to beat this garbage into fact for the next 24 hrs, The stupid people will lap it up.
“Due to a math error, a story about Elizabeth Warren misstated the ancestry percentage of a potential 10th generation relative. It should be 1/1,024.”
2 to the -10th power, for all you math geniuses. They neglect to mention that sixth generation would be 1/64, not 1/32.
It’s like having a 1 point fingerprint match.
They found a marker to a very few markes in her dna pool that matches with native american markers they have in the entire dna pool that they query. My understanding is that it could actually mean ZERO native american at all up to very little native american.
A one point fingerprint match “could” be the guy you’re trying to convict, but it probably isn’t at about the 99.99% confidence level.
So what we have here is the first, somewhat questionable, case of the Bradely/Wilder effect.
23andMe says I have Native American ancestry 7 generations back. I’d love to know what went on sometime in the 1700s. Both sets of my grandparents came to the US in the early 1900s - one from Sweden (from poor fishing and farming families) and one set from Italy (again, poor peasant stock).
Good fodder for Trump to troll her. Besides, this was this best she could do with her friend doing the analysis?
Her family tree dating back 6 to 10 generations only shows someone that far back was ‘part’ Native American............you could say that about Most Asians going back generations have Mongolian Blood.
Her family tree dating back 6 to 10 generations only shows someone that far back was ‘part’ Native American............you could say that about Most Asians going back generations have Mongolian Blood.
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