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Zullo:2 top intel people in 2 branches: "open secret" Obama NOT born in US!
Freedom Friday with Garl Gallups ^ | August 17, 2018 | Mike Zullo, Carl Gallups

Posted on 08/18/2018 10:38:48 PM PDT by Seizethecarp

15:50: Aside from there never being a birth certificate at Kapiolani Medical Center...and I will never reveal the sources, however they are top intelligence people in two different branches of intelligence...it has been an open secret that Obama could never satisfy the constitutional requirement of being born on American soil.

Now in our investigation we were not tasked with determining that. We were looking for evidence of a fraudulent document and perhaps the reason behind it, but the mission was never to find where he was or was not born. However, that's the open secret.

Now that's the open secret and you have John Brennan, James Clapper, James Comey, Micheal Hayden, all these players that were in control of those entities are now empbroiled in this soft coup to destroy the presidency of the United States.

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TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; History; Politics
KEYWORDS: birftards; birthers; brennan; carlgallups; fakebirthcertificate; hawaiianmyass; jamesclapper; jamescomey; johnbrennan; kenyanbornmuzzie; michealhayden; mikezullo; naturalborncitizen; obama; sheriffarpaio
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The prerequisite to eligibility is not a state matter it’s a federal matter. States have jurisdiction over who may be on ballots in their state elections. However, they have no say in the matter of eligibility on a federal level. State election winners to Congress have been refused to be seated in the past. This is no different.

As to whether or not Ted Cruz was or is eligible, the matter is not settled. He lost. He was born in Canada to a Cuban citizen father. As I understand this from over a year of reading and debate, if either of those nations made a legal claim upon him at birth in the form of citizenship then he was not natural born. If neither of them did, then he is natural born. Our Founders wanted no other jurisdiction having valid, internationally recognized legal authority over the President and Commander in Chief of the military. The logic of that seems plain to me, can’t quite figure out why it’s so difficult for others.

Seems I recall something about Mr. Constitution “forgetting” he was born a Canadian citizen. Well isn’t that something, wonder how he forgot something like that?


141 posted on 08/19/2018 9:53:52 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Lots of phone time, I’m sure.

How much money must one raise to be considered a ‘bundler?’ 100K?


142 posted on 08/19/2018 9:55:03 AM PDT by Beautiful_Gracious_Skies
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To: Jim Noble

“So who was the first natural-born US President?”

I would guess the first president born after July 4, 1776!

That would be the first US president under the US Constitution that could be argued to have been retroactively declared “natural born” without dual citizenship to the King.


143 posted on 08/19/2018 10:03:35 AM PDT by Seizethecarp
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To: GregNH

Very good organized logic and explanation.

Now explain the following scenario. First, note the legal distinction between ‘residence’ and ‘domicile’. Second, note the sentence in the Constitution following ‘natural born’, that of the requirement to have resided WITHIN the United States for a period of 14 years.

Consider the scenario of Thomas Jefferson in Paris as US Ambassador. Suppose Jefferson marries and has a child at the ambassador’s residence in Paris. Jefferson maintains his legal ‘domicile’ at Monticello, Virginia throughout the time he is in Europe.

After completing his ambassadorship, Jefferson returns to Monticello with his child. His child grows to the age of 35 and seeks to run for President.

Is the child eligible?


144 posted on 08/19/2018 10:12:14 AM PDT by Hostage (Article V (Proud Member of the Deranged Q Fringe))
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To: Seizethecarp
“So who was the first natural-born US President?”
I would guess the first president born after July 4, 1776!

Martin Van Buren, #8, birthed in 1782 in Kinderhook NY, was the first American President not born a British subject nor of British ancestry (Netherlands).

But... the Revolutionary War ended in 1783 actually, so an argument could be made for John Tyler, #10... but he wasn't elected, he took over after William Henry Harrison (#9, born in 1773) died 1 month into office.

That gives us James K Polk, #11, born on November 2, 1795 in a log cabin in Pineville, North Carolina, as the first American President born on undisputed American soil and elected to the office.

Now for the first elected American President born to two American-born parents... :)

145 posted on 08/19/2018 10:18:22 AM PDT by Teacher317 (We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men)
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To: jospehm20

Despite residing in America after fleeing Communist Cuba, Cruz Senior evaded American citizenship for nearly 50 years, having become an American in 2005 (Ted in Bush WH.)

Cuban ~ 30 years
Canadian ~ 40 years

Mother either rescinded American status or at the very least became a dual citizen of both countries since she could vote in Canada.

The similarities between their lives is uncanny - both with bigamist fathers and multiple 1/2 siblings. Their placement in the Ivies is the big step up. However, Ted actually IS very academic smart and earned his own grades

Make no doubt about it, handlers have been pulling the strings for both men beginning in high school. Rest assured, there are many future politicians being groomed in that same queue.


146 posted on 08/19/2018 10:28:56 AM PDT by Beautiful_Gracious_Skies
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To: Seizethecarp

Well now. Zullo still hasn’t produced and is still making excuses. Now is the time for another BOOM! Drop the real Docs which Trump has always had access to. Let the people see where they were defrauded by the Dems. Only a small percentage will understand. It would make alot of people happy.


147 posted on 08/19/2018 10:32:52 AM PDT by DrDude (Waiting for the Game to start. Gotta move the Goal Posts again!)
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To: Jim Noble

The rule of law would have to be enforced within the government, before we could ever consider that question.

Looks like a three ring circus, maybe 20+....


148 posted on 08/19/2018 10:34:55 AM PDT by foundedonpurpose (Praise Hashem, for his restoration of all things!)
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To: DullProse
The Framers language was Middle English?

not exactly

Mid·dle Eng·lish
ˈˌmidl ˈiNGliSH/Submit
noun
the English language from c. 1150 to c. 1470.

149 posted on 08/19/2018 10:38:09 AM PDT by TheRightGuy (I want MY BAILOUT ... a billion or two should do!)
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To: GregNH

“The meaning of the term-of-art ‘natural born Citizen’ has been addressed, and confirmed by the US Supreme Court.”

I don’t think so. Not directly as applied in a specific case, which is what would really count!

Great to see you on this thread. Just for curiosity I went to the NBC Wiki page and was surprised to see that it has been updated with extensive updated references.

The Wiki SCOTUS conclusion on the NBC issue reflects the outcome we experienced on FR, I think.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural-born-citizen_clause

“The natural-born-citizen clause has been mentioned in passing in several decisions of the United States Supreme Court, and by some lower courts that have addressed eligibility challenges, but the Supreme Court has never directly addressed the question of a specific presidential or vice-presidential candidate’s eligibility as a natural-born citizen. Many eligibility lawsuits from the 2008, 2012, and 2016 election cycles were dismissed in lower courts due to the challengers’ difficulty in showing that they had standing to raise legal objections. Additionally, some experts have suggested that the precise meaning of the natural-born-citizen clause may never be decided by the courts because, in the end, presidential eligibility may be determined to be a non-justiciable political question that can be decided only by Congress rather than by the judicial branch of government.”


150 posted on 08/19/2018 10:42:42 AM PDT by Seizethecarp
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To: jospehm20

Cruz’s was unwittingly used to set up LHO as the greatest patsy of all time.

He was filmed by the Agency in NOLA distributing FPCC materials and that very same long dormant footage was amazing uploaded to a youtube video by some one in Texas in 2015. That is most likely where the National Enquirer captured their photo.

He was also photographed protesting for the Directorio Revolucionario Estudiantil (DRE) in Austin and either for DRE or FPCC in Montreal during that era. Cruz went to Canada for a reason and it was not because of any shortage of oil in Texas, LOL.


151 posted on 08/19/2018 10:48:34 AM PDT by Beautiful_Gracious_Skies
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To: Seizethecarp

That is exactly why the Founders grandfathered themselves.
(“or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution”)

This Grandfather Clause of Article II applied to the qualifications of 1) Washington, 2) Adams, 3) Jefferson, 4) Madison, 5) Monroe, 6) J.Q. Adams, 7) Jackson, and 9) Harrison, all of whom were born on British Soil, and to parents who were British subjects.

The first President not qualifying under the Grandfather Clause, but as a natural born citizen, is 8.) Martin Van Buren. Van Buren was born on Dec. 5, 1782, near Albany, NY, to two parents who were both U.S. Citizens.

Every predecessor to Van Buren was born British Subjects and with British allegiance through the British subjecthood of their parents.

http://www.obamabirthbook.com/http:/www.obamabirthbook.com/2012/10/the-grandfather-clause-regarding-the-natural-born-citizen-requirement-of-the-constitution-was-it-ever-needed-or-used/


152 posted on 08/19/2018 10:49:51 AM PDT by JayGalt (You can't teach a donkey how to tap dance.)
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To: Savage Beast; Seizethecarp; SkyPilot; null and void

[This is at the basis of the corruption in the FBI et al. They cannot allow the truth about Obama to become established as public knowledge.]

Frankly, I believe this is a rational explanation of The Swamp(tm). It also explains the complicity of Brennan and Clapper (which is redundant).

If this was ever TRULY proven (the theory about Barack) it would show they were complicit in the largest crime ever committed in the United States. Earth-shattering enough (tm) to possibly be the end of these agencies because of politicized agendas. It would also be the end of the Democrat Party.

The screaming and scheming of several “top folks” is highly-unusual behavior against a patriotic President. It calls into question what common goal the screamers have (Comey, Mueller, Brennan, Clapper, etc.). They are all drama queens who constantly pump out lies. For a long time now.

Whatever one thinks about Barack, there is enough smoke from this fire to prove that SEVERAL people are lying including the Kenyan Usurper. The idiots that still support him, are, well, idiots.


153 posted on 08/19/2018 10:58:14 AM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: SatinDoll

SatinDoll,

Pinging to this thread.

We miss you.


154 posted on 08/19/2018 11:02:42 AM PDT by LucyT (It is President Trump, - not "Trump.")
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To: Hostage

No. The law applies equally to everyone. Jefferson would have needed to have the child naturalized as an American citizen.

AmerAsian children are not even granted US citizenship automatically. Children born overseas to fathers serving their country in Vietnam or Korea have no rights to American citizenship or residency. As of 1987, now they are eligible for visa applications.

* Immigrant visas are issued to Amerasians under Public Law 100-202 (Act of 12/22/87), which provides for the admission of aliens born in Vietnam after January 1, 1962, and before January 1, 1976, if the alien was fathered by a U.S. citizen.


155 posted on 08/19/2018 11:05:19 AM PDT by Beautiful_Gracious_Skies
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To: BenLurkin

Of course Freepers were on this before the first election of Zero.

It is remarkable how many times this site has called the shots.

It swings from the idiotic to genius pure genius.


156 posted on 08/19/2018 11:13:21 AM PDT by arrogantsob (See "Chaos and Mayhem" at Amazon.com)
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To: erkelly

So is the King of Jordan, his mom was an American citizen.

I do not believe the Fraud was born in Kenya. As ditzy as his mother was even she would not go to Kenya to give birth.
It is true that we do not know for a fact where he was born.

As far as birth to an American mother or American father confers Natural Born citizen, the law was changed a couple of years prior to the Fraud conferring citizenship through one parent. We know for a fact that his father was NOT an American citizen.

My understanding is there are three categories of citizen: Natural Born -both parents are citizen; Native born - born in the country with one or more Non-citizen parents; Naturalized citizen- Immigrant given citizenship thru the federal process.

To make the case that he had to be born in this country would fly over the heads of the majority of the American citizens and provoke violence on an unparalleled level.

It does not help that Natural Born Citizen is not legally defined and resorting to the definitions of the past show contradicts between them.

It is rather ironic that neither parent had to be born here to birth a Natural Born Citizen. They could be Naturalized so that they are citizens.


157 posted on 08/19/2018 11:30:52 AM PDT by arrogantsob (See "Chaos and Mayhem" at Amazon.com)
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To: DMZFrank

Exactly:” I suspect the reason that many do not want this issue formally examined is that they wish to foster and enhance the globalist influence on the office of POTUS.

The NBC requirement was never intended to be a guarantee of allegiance, but a safeguard against undue foreign influence on the office of POTUS, PARTICULARLY from a father owing allegiance to a foreign sovereignty. The oath of naturalization requires a formal and legal renunciation of any prior national allegiances.”

Disregarding the American birth requirement throws the door wide open to a million or so foreigners.

Consider these Jordanians: Princess Iman bint Al Hussein, Princess Raiyah bint Hussein, Prince Hamzah bin Hussein, and Prince Hashim bin Hussein.

These are the children of the late King Hussein and American born Lisa Halaby - Queen Noor. Without NBC requirements, they become eligible to be president.


158 posted on 08/19/2018 11:34:04 AM PDT by Beautiful_Gracious_Skies
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To: JohnBovenmyer

I believe the law was changed prior to or just after The Future Fraud was born.


159 posted on 08/19/2018 11:34:48 AM PDT by arrogantsob (See "Chaos and Mayhem" at Amazon.com)
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To: arthurus

160 posted on 08/19/2018 11:36:07 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's SIMPLE ! ... Fight, ... or Die !)
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