Posted on 08/14/2018 6:17:21 PM PDT by OddLane
Hot off the wires. It turns out that they're not going to stop at purging Alex Jones. Who would've thought?
Her youtube videos and websites are all available. This problem is about getting paid for views on youtube.
That's not even close. A couple hundred bucks a month would fund enough bandwidth to get an audience of thousands. From there you could sell your own ads and pay for expansion into the millions.
Nobody is censored. I just pulled up a Geller youtube. Jones has his website and some other channels.
They serve everybody equally. They don't pay equally. They decided (according to the article) to not pay Geller for views. Forcing them to pay is a slippery slope.
Bookmark
Finally, something I can agree with. Now, let's talk about how to destroy Facebook, Twitter, etc. So far you have been hinting or even saying you want the government to take them over. That would mean we would never be able to destroy them. They would use the regulatory protections to prohibit any competition.
The ones that nobody visits?
At any rate, it's not about kicking conservatives off the platforms. it's about kicking conservatives off the internet.
You think it's going to end at getting banned from YouTube and Twitter? Nope! Next they'll go after the ISPs that host the few conservative sites that allow people like Geller and Alex Jones.
The trouble is that there is not much to break up. Facebook serves content and that's about it.
Idiots who can't see the big picture.
Banning conservatives from the platforms is just the beginning. Next will be going after the ISPs that host them.
It isn't about kicking us off Facebook, YouTube, and Twitter. it's about kicking us off the internet altogether.
And mark my words, once this practice gets smoothed out, they'll go after FR (and every site just like it) for "hate speech" violations.
You just don't get it, do you?
You can't build your own newspapers if the only people with printing presses and ink won't sell them to you.
I suppose you could make your own printing presses but the people who make the parts won't sell them to you.
I suppose you could make the parts, but the people with the raw materials won't sell them to you.
Well, so much for that idea.
Try to see the big picture, will you? This isn't about making your own Twitter after you were kicked off of theirs. This is about getting kicked off the internet completely because that's what's on the horizon.
The article above is about money, not censorship. The government can't be used to force Youtube to pay Geller for views without lots of unintended side effects. The obvious one is every leftist will demand their slice of the pie and bureaucrats who are often leftist will be happy to dole out the company's money. The bigger problem is what you are suggesting is regulating all sort of internet services like virtual servers. That would effectively end the innovation and competition that is driving the cost down close to zero.
You shouldn’t comment upon this matter until you understand how a YouTube channel works as far as monetization. The left is already getting “their piece of the pie.” This is about taking the pie away from anyone who doesn’t toe the leftist line.
The big picture is that virtual servers are practically free and have no limitations other than illegal content and practical limits on bandwidth (costs more for streaming video). If people want to serve any other content (text, audio) there's nothing that can stop them.
A good example is seeing how the Chinese are unable to stop banned content from going through their national firewall. Encryption is undetectable if there is enough cover content for it. For exaple a banned audio can be encrypted and then masquerade as an allowed video and nobody will know there is banned audio inserted into the high order bits.
You can explain how monetization works in detail if you like. But the simple explanation is that Youtube pays content providers for views of their content. Geller doesn’t get a lot of views, so she is not going to get much money from it, compared to a funny cat video site.
Again, you really shouldn’t comment upon this matter until you understand what you’re talking about. You’re casting about for reasons to justify leftists shutting down media that they don’t like.
This isn't about kicking people off the platforms.
Ultimately, it's about laying the groundwork to purge "offensive speech" from the internet altogether.
Amazing the number of people here who aren't seeing this.
Alex Jones has infowars.com. I can get to his content there with fewer clicks than it takes me on Twitter.
Face it, this makes it harder for him to make a buck but he has not been silenced.
As I said, he has a right to speak, not to be heard.
This is like a pamphleteer demanding that The Times print his screeds because The Times has so many more readers.
It doesn't work that way in this country.
This is about getting kicked off the internet completely because that's what's on the horizon.
Not even close.
In the long the run the repeal of net neutrality is a much bigger threat to Jones than this is.
That could impact infowars.com.
“Do you honestly think that ISPs and web hosting sites wont be the next target by the leftist fascists?”
This was the exact purpose of “Net Neutrality.” I can’t understand how many conservatives were duped by the leftists’ propaganda. While expressly proposed to defeat an imaginary capitalist plot, in effect it granted content control to the technocrat oligarchs.
Every single company now engaging in this communist social engineering was a vocal supporter of NN. Freedom never has, nor ever will be the natural state of mankind. Having lost the legal initiative to a deplorable administration, they now riposte with outright fourth-generation warfare. This is truly the first salvo in a genocidal process that will make the toll from Mao’s Great Leap look like a toddler’s first steps.
It’s ironic that those who disparaged the noble savages for trading their lands for baubles, now exchange their own freedoms for baubles consisting only of bits.
...justify leftists shutting down media that they don't like...
No media has been shut down other than Alex Jones pushed out of some platforms. The issue in Geller's case is not shutting down, it's the payment for views. If you think it's more than just that, then you should say so. Otherwise you have no argument other than your "shutting down" argument which is obviously not correct.
Furthermore if you have an idea of how you would like to regulate or whatever, you should describe it, so we can critique.
YouTube, FaceBook, Google, PayPal and others are de facto public accommodations and to begin purging certain users or penalizing certain users for political views is very problematic whether you can see that through your idealogical beer goggles yet or not. They are not equivalent to a newspaper or to any other online service by virtue of their total dominance. Next simplistic tactic from you is that FR discriminates do you want to force leftists to be able to post here, well, the very existence of FR is based upon a political view and the membership is expected to support that view, it’s a private club, not a public accommodation. All of these should be regarded as public utilities. With fair compensation of course, wouldn’t want the stock price to tank or anything, oh no, that’s what’s sacrosanct here, nothing else.
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.