Posted on 08/10/2018 7:39:33 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
Ha. I was just about to ping you.
13 - 15 make no sense to me. There must be others that would rate higher.
I might have to put LBJ as the most damaging president....he did more damage in his four years than bammy in his eight.
Who.
Arthur did a great job ending the spoils system.
Cleveland was the only Post-Civil War constitutional DemoKKKrat.
McKinley brought us into prosperity & onto the world stage.
I might put Madison up there except for the bungling of the War of 1812.
I would definitely rate Jackson lower.
Trump probably shouldn’t be included since he hasn’t served even half his term yet.
No, it really wasn’t.
Dittos. I don’t know how or why so many people forget Lyndon B. Johnson. He was arguably the worst president for many reasons. Vietnam being the primary reason. Or the great society is the primary reason LBJ is the worst president.
Then you add in his direct ties to the assassination of JFK, and a whole host of other reasons and one thing is abundantly clear.
Nobody, not even Obama, was worse than Johnson.
The last two would be
49. Carter
50. Obama
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I disagree.
The worst President in history was FDR, whose communist-riddled administration was truly controlled by Joseph Stalin; who gave away half of Europe, all of China, not to mention the A-bomb on a silver platter to the USSR, while suppressing all news of communist atrocities.
FDR’s “Co-President,” Harry Hopkins, was clearly an agent of the USSR, along with his fellow travelers who made up the core group at Yalta, Harry Dexter White and Alger Hiss.
The New Deal set the USA well on the road towards socialism. FDR believed the two systems would inevitably merge, while most of his closest advisors wanted a clear victory for communism.
Even Zero cannot equal the permanent, global-scale damage of FDR ... perhaps because he only had two terms.
The modern US Navy began with Arthur. Cleveland opposed annexing Hawaii, a future "blue" state. Cleveland and McKinley also supported the gold standard which kept the country prosperous.
Good choices; James Monroe was good too.
I would put W in the bottom five, along with LBJ (whose Great Society, initiation of the Vietnam War based on false pretenses cooked up by Rob’t. McNamara and 1965 Immigration Act did incalculable damage); Obama (pushed state socialism); Buchanan (fiddled while the Civil War brewed); and Franklin Pierce (a drunk). W needlessly started a war that too many families had to pay the ultimate price for, that accomplished nothing, and that cost trillions in dollars. He was and is a congenital idiot.
The only people who bludgeon with, or are bludgeoned by that citation are people who don't understand it in context. I would urge you to read Ike's farewell address in its entirety.
Eisenhower had been part of the military as it built up and mobilized for both WWI and WWII. As he reflected on the state of the world in 1961, he saw that there would not be the time for the nation to ramp up for a future large scale conflict and that in the context of the cold war, the nation needed to be in a high state of military readiness at all times. He actually argued that the, "military industrial complex," was an unavoidable necessity, but because it changed the paradigm dramatically, it was one that needed to be watched and given close scrutiny. Nothing liberal at all about that.
Furthermore, in his farewell address, the military industrial complex was but one of two developing trends Ike cautioned against, and the second is conveniently forgotten, overlooked or ignored by liberals who spout off about the MIC. The second was the, "scientific-technological elite." Ike saw how federally funded research projects were being used to drive public policy and warned against it. When you go back and read his address, think about the EPA and global warming nonsense and how his warnings have gone unheeded.
I always ram that down the throat of anybody who spouts off about the "military industrial complex," and without fail, it catches them off guard.
Teddy the land grabber took half of America away and turned it into nat parks and forests. He WAS Agenda 21 100 years before the profs created Agenda 21
The Bush’s weren’t conservative at all, they were and still are GLO-BULL-ISTS.
Lincoln? That butcher needs his own separate category.
I don’t really understand the love for Lincoln. Yeah yeah fred the slaves but at the expense of destroying states rights and have us the civil war. Don’t really understand most conservatives hate for Jackson except they cannot see past the D
The Chinese are running it now, and that qualifies as a disaster.
Ike was a fiasco. He not only didn’t undo 20 years of Democrat Socialism and aggressively target the infiltration of Soviet agents and sympathizers in the nation, he destroyed the GOP on his watch that it took 22 years to regain the Senate and 40 to regain the House.
I cut Pierce some slack for one enormous reason: His young son was killed in front of his eyes in a train wreck before his swearing-in. Both he and his wife were suffering from shock and depression for the entirety of his administration (his wife almost never came out of her room at the WH). Mrs. Pierce believe the child’s death was the hand of Providence for her husband having run for the Presidency. More pitiable than incompetent.
His successor Buchanan couldn’t have done anything, either, to prevent what was coming. To his credit, at least he mobilized the Union in the last months of his term and tried to purge pro-Southern interests in his administration (although probably too late by then). Still, he was in an untenable position.
I agree about LBJ being a fiasco (willfully so) and Dubya has moved down in my estimation as well. He all but handed the keys of Congress to Pelosi and Co., and also did nothing to stop Zero, who was a clear and present threat to national security. He and his classless family issuing a de facto endorsement (with the daughters support outright) of Hillary in 2016 was the last straw. Elevating GHW Bush was Reagan’s greatest error in judgment.
Disagree on Buchanan.
Jackson dramatically increased the size, proportionally, of government; increased the executive power at every opportunity; ignored the US Supreme Court; hated the Indians and disregarded the Court to harm them; wanted (yes, wanted) a central banking system allied with HIS party (no, he didn’t hate banks in general, only Whig banks).
All I can say for Jackson is that through no efforts of his own, he eliminated the national debt and that he loved America.
Lincoln took on the greatest issue of the 19th century when no one else would. Period. Even though it involved federal power, he oversaw beginning of the transcontinental RR system; completed Jefferson’s goal of giving land to as many citizens as possible through Homestead; set up ag & engineering schools to help those farmers; ensured the Ds would be a minority in the West & midwest for half a century.
Great, great president.
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