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The Bitcoin Bunker Holding Billions
Safehaven.com ^ | 05-14-2018 | Michael

Posted on 05/14/2018 8:33:40 AM PDT by bananaman22

Just because it’s digital doesn’t mean it doesn’t need a vault, and Silicon Valley millionaires and billionaires now have a way to keep their cryptocurrency safe from the criminals: Underground bunkers packed with encrypted computer servers storing cryptographic keys for billions in bitcoin.

This is cold storage, with a major security twist. It’s a new kind of vault for a new age and one Argentine pioneer has finally convinced the wealthy that this is where their digital currency will be safe.

The brainchild of entrepreneur Wences Casares, a startup called Xapo has built crypto bunkers on five continents—including one in a decommissioned Swiss military bunker, and now he’s housing some $10 billion in bitcoin for the wealthy—though the price volatility of digital tokens makes it impossible to estimate real-time value.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: bitcoin; finance; hedgefunds; security
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To: precisionshootist
They are protecting the private keys or the "passwords".

Knew a guy in college whose ATM password was: BEER

21 posted on 05/14/2018 10:13:07 AM PDT by Poison Pill
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To: Sgt_Schultze
I wonder how heirs would claim their property without the correct biometric information, along with the correct hash/key

Can be tied to a hardware key. No need for biometrics or a password.

22 posted on 05/14/2018 10:17:27 AM PDT by palmer (...if we do not have strong families and strong values, then we will be weak and we will not survive)
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To: Wildbill22

A totally decentralized cryptocurrency bypasses government control...or any specific government’s survival.


What backs it?


23 posted on 05/14/2018 10:19:27 AM PDT by robroys woman (So you're not confused, I'm using my wife's account.)
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To: Wildbill22
"Question is if the scarcity of Bitcoin will be enough. Is scarcity what gives gold its value? Is scarcity THE value?"

Good question. IMO it's likely a combination of three factors. The first two are scarcity AND the belief that other people will always want it. The third needed criteria is that the thing of value must be timeless, in other words it can't spoil like tulips, it must be capable of lasting forever.

Bitcoin has two of the three for sure. The third being lasting demand has yet to be seen.

24 posted on 05/14/2018 10:26:16 AM PDT by precisionshootist
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To: Poison Pill
I thought the whole point of block chain is that it is un hackable.

Everyone who owns value stored in the blockchain proves their ownership by signing with a private key. If you keep your private key on your person it can be stolen. A software wallet can be hacked and a hardware wallet can be robbed (the robber would have to force the password protecting the hardware from you at gunpoint)

25 posted on 05/14/2018 10:30:13 AM PDT by palmer (...if we do not have strong families and strong values, then we will be weak and we will not survive)
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To: precisionshootist

The bitcoin crypto can’t last forever since ECC private keys will be brute forced in a few decades (50 years without any crypto breakthroughs). But the crypto phenomenon will continue regardless of what happens to ECC and bitcoin and the others using ECC.


26 posted on 05/14/2018 10:35:40 AM PDT by palmer (...if we do not have strong families and strong values, then we will be weak and we will not survive)
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To: robroys woman
What backs it?

There are financial backers such as startups that hold and use bitcoin and other CCs in their business plan. They have to make it work or their business plan fails. Of course you could argue that they are part of a pyramid. But they can infuse real money into the pyramid where they need to.

The biggest problem with CC's is that very few people use them for commerce as designed. Without a network of users they will wither away except for the blockchain apps.

27 posted on 05/14/2018 10:41:01 AM PDT by palmer (...if we do not have strong families and strong values, then we will be weak and we will not survive)
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To: palmer

I think the blockchain apps are the real breakthrough here, at least based on what I understand about it.


28 posted on 05/14/2018 10:46:26 AM PDT by robroys woman (So you're not confused, I'm using my wife's account.)
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To: bananaman22
this is where their digital currency will be safe.

Want it to be safe? Convert it to Gold or Silver, fiat currency is never safe only accepted, and it has a history of becoming unaccepted.

29 posted on 05/14/2018 10:54:17 AM PDT by itsahoot (Welcome to the New USA where Islam is a religion of peace and Christianity is a mental disorder.)
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To: ConservativeMind

No, USD is simply ephemeral bits.

Bitcoin is at least secured by a voluntary, distributed network.


30 posted on 05/14/2018 11:08:00 AM PDT by oblomov
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To: neverevergiveup
So to further your thoughts, some ALTCoins and Bitcoin have "issued" a secondary set of coin within the original essentially doubling the number of coin that can come into being, much like QE2 was for a set amount of months several times before becoming permanent under Obama. Turning off the QE and raising interest rates can only do so much. Reissuing the USD as the Euro did in 1999 could wipe out the outstanding monies that are not validated against the new banking dollar;)

I have three mining rigs with 22 cards mining Ethereum at a rate of 1.5 per month.

31 posted on 05/14/2018 11:09:27 AM PDT by Jumper
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To: robroys woman

The first and foremost blockchain app is tracking CC values and transactions. Others are good, but they can’t really sustain without a profit motive for miners.


32 posted on 05/14/2018 11:28:03 AM PDT by palmer (...if we do not have strong families and strong values, then we will be weak and we will not survive)
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To: palmer

I was under the impression mining was coming to an end.


33 posted on 05/14/2018 11:33:00 AM PDT by robroys woman (So you're not confused, I'm using my wife's account.)
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To: robroys woman

One source says last Bitcoin will be mined in 2140.

Still going strong at the moment, present price is $8800 which is about 10X one year ago.

An entertaining side; John Mcafee is going to eat his most favorite body part if Bitcoin does not break $1 Million by 2020.

https://fnordprefekt.de

https://diegorod.github.io/WillMcAfeeEatHisOwnDick/

Not looking for little John...


34 posted on 05/14/2018 11:44:49 AM PDT by Wildbill22 ( They have us surrounded again, the poor bastards- Gen Creighton William Abrams)
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To: precisionshootist

“Bitcoin is limited to 21 million and there can be no more.”

What number of bitcoin is needed to buy my wife a pound of chocolate fudge and me a case of beer? Just for simple reference, let’s say the above fudge and case of beer costs $24.34 in US currency. How much is needed in bitcoin?


35 posted on 05/14/2018 12:38:36 PM PDT by sergeantdave (Teach a man to fish and he'll steal your gear and sell it)
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To: sergeantdave
The calculation is just purchase price divided by the current bitcoin price. So

24.34 / 8800 = .002765909 = about 2.77 mili-bitcoin (easier denomination to work with)

36 posted on 05/14/2018 1:46:05 PM PDT by Database
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To: sergeantdave

About .0029 bitcoin is $25. Bitcoin is currently aroun $8700


37 posted on 05/14/2018 3:41:37 PM PDT by precisionshootist
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