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Turning Out To Be Not Worth It To Own Your Own Small Business. ..In NYS

Posted on 04/07/2018 8:24:48 AM PDT by AbolishCSEU

So we are in our second year of my husband's HVAC biz. He is busy like crazy (one man band) And I have a "regular" 40+ hour job with benefits that keeps the lights on and the mortgage paid.


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To: BipolarBob

I think she means New York State.


41 posted on 04/07/2018 9:34:43 AM PDT by Hostage (Article V)
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To: Hostage

Big businesses DTART out as small business. It takes a lot of hard work to get into the BIG category.


42 posted on 04/07/2018 9:35:45 AM PDT by DaveA37
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To: Albion Wilde

We’ve gotten to the point that we don’t need to advertise right now. Word of mouth has gone a long way.

As far as kids go, his kids 21, 19 and 15 have been alienated from us by his ex for the past 9 years. He just pays his $800 a month. The oldest one was emancipated accidentally by moving out and mom was hoping we wouldn’t find out. We did and boy was she ANGRY.

Anyway, hub’s ex would rather see their three children impoverished than learn any valuable trade skill from hubs.

And they are—21 year old son is a dishwasher in a pizzeria—mom told him he’d be a rock star as a career, I kid you not. 19 year old daughter and 15 year old son are going no where fast—truancy and pot smoking. She hates hubs more than she loves their children.

My children are 36 and 30. 36 yr old daughter is happily married for 14 yrs and living near the PA/MD border; her husband is a purchaser for a large pharmaceutical in Baltimore.
Son, 30 is in the Air Force, does electrical engineering and has a math degree/teaching certificate—his wife is an elementary school teacher in a private/parochial school and she loves it.


43 posted on 04/07/2018 9:35:58 AM PDT by AbolishCSEU (Amount of "child" support paid is inversely proportionate to mother's actual parenting of children)
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To: AbolishCSEU
Agree, it’s not worth it to live in New York. Business owner or not.

MOVE.

It’s the only answer.

Born in NY in 1954, I moved to FL in 2009 - best financial decision of my life. No state tax, significantly lower cost of living. Makes a tremendous difference.

I’m from generations of New Yorkers, on both sides. But except for those in New York cemeteries, we ALL got out. Not a single relative lives there now.

Flee to red America as fast as you can.

44 posted on 04/07/2018 9:43:10 AM PDT by M. Thatcher
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To: DaveA37; AbolishCSEU

Yes, absolutely true, takes hard work and passion.

She can look for local small contracts, or have a friend or neighbor help find them and bid for them. Some of the contract work can be with a local school district to clean HVAC ducts. Her husband doesn’t have to do that but she can grow the business by managing subcontractors that way and it can feed his main line of installing new ductwork and equipment.

She can also set up subcontracts with emergency power backup companies and advertise that as value-added. In NYS, when the power goes down and the AC goes off, work inside a building comes to a halt as the sweltering conditions are unbearable.

Succeeding in business is all about managing well or execution, execution, execution. Even how a phone call is answered is important. She should find a person with a nice voice or an auto system that answers the phone pleasantly and brings her on quickly to add more business.


45 posted on 04/07/2018 9:49:56 AM PDT by Hostage (Article V)
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To: AbolishCSEU

Think what government would do if we didn’t have the right to form a well regulated militia. You would not have a dime left.


46 posted on 04/07/2018 9:50:43 AM PDT by Born to Conserve
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To: stranger and pilgrim

“Seven+ years owning running my own business. Six days a week. No vacation beyond a day or two here or there. No change in sight. I feel your pain.”

A clear sign you don’t own a business system, but you are the system.

It is a difficult transition to working on your business, creating systems and a team that allows you to replace yourself.

Most never think this way and end up burning out, running out of money, or both.


47 posted on 04/07/2018 9:52:13 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Q is Barron Trump, time-traveling back from the future, to help his dad fight the deep state.)
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To: AbolishCSEU

Mr. mm owns his own business as well and we can’t wait for the day when it works out that we are out of here as well.

Retirement is OUT OF STATE for sure.

You are NOT alone.


48 posted on 04/07/2018 9:55:45 AM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: AbolishCSEU

NY - The Vampire State


49 posted on 04/07/2018 9:56:24 AM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: Albion Wilde

Really nice thoughts Albion. I second them.

Recurring income is one of the wonders of the world.


50 posted on 04/07/2018 9:58:24 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Q is Barron Trump, time-traveling back from the future, to help his dad fight the deep state.)
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To: AbolishCSEU

If he does electrical and plumbing why not just work for someone else?


51 posted on 04/07/2018 10:17:48 AM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: AbolishCSEU

Just remember, “You didn’t build that.”


52 posted on 04/07/2018 10:49:10 AM PDT by Mark (Celebrities... is there anything they do not know? -Homer Simpson)
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To: AbolishCSEU

Hey look up Intellidyne out of New York
Goid HVACR controls
Fyi


53 posted on 04/07/2018 10:57:54 AM PDT by Truthoverpower (The guvmint you get is the Trump winning express !)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

It’s very important to raise you own kids
Me and the wife both have jobs but trade off so one of us is always with them


54 posted on 04/07/2018 11:00:14 AM PDT by Truthoverpower (The guvmint you get is the Trump winning express !)
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To: AbolishCSEU

‘Child’ support till age 21? That’s insane!


55 posted on 04/07/2018 11:14:45 AM PDT by mbrfl
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To: woodenickel

“And work anytime you want. Christmas, New Years or any other holiday you want”

Thanks for the laugh :-))


56 posted on 04/07/2018 11:47:49 AM PDT by xenia ("In times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." George Orwell)
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To: mbrfl

That’s nothing. it can go even LONGER than 21 (to 24) if the kid isn’t keeping up in college.

No incentive for mom to see that kid doesn’t fail out semester after semester. BIG incentive to keep kid failing out semester after semester.


57 posted on 04/07/2018 1:27:59 PM PDT by AbolishCSEU (Amount of "child" support paid is inversely proportionate to mother's actual parenting of children)
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To: Nifster

Doesn’t iike the management models. He’s finding out quickly the ONLY way you can stay in business in NY is to be crooked. Of course I told him that early on but, some people have to learn first hand.


58 posted on 04/07/2018 2:16:45 PM PDT by AbolishCSEU (Amount of "child" support paid is inversely proportionate to mother's actual parenting of children)
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To: AbolishCSEU

Starting up a business generally entails early costs. It is common not to make as much in the early stages. But if he is busy and not making enough, then either his cost structure is too high or he isn’t charging enough for his services. If his customers really are cheap, he needs to find those who will pay better. But perhaps he’s just not good at holding the line on his rates? Do they turn him down and go elsewhere? If so, how are those competitors swinging it? One or more levers on the business needs adjustment, and it is pretty darned common for someone new in running a business needing to learn what that is — and then make the needed changes.


59 posted on 04/07/2018 7:46:07 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: fella

New York State—as opposed to NYC.


60 posted on 04/07/2018 7:48:19 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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