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To: BroJoeK

Blah blah blah completely ignoring the FACT that when the Constitution was ratified, certain southern states were assured they could withdraw should their sovereignty be challenged. This was NOT in the 1860’s as you have inferred. The Constitution was signed in 1787 and did not take effect until March 4, 1789. 1860’s were a long time later.


415 posted on 02/18/2018 3:23:01 PM PST by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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To: Mollypitcher1
...ignoring the FACT that when the Constitution was ratified, certain southern states were assured they could withdraw should their sovereignty be challenged.

That's not true either. At least you're consistent.

418 posted on 02/18/2018 5:12:47 PM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: Mollypitcher1

The signing statements, tacked onto the ratification documents, were designed to allay fears regarding their great undertaking. They have no force of law. They were (and remain) merely symbolic gestures.


419 posted on 02/18/2018 6:15:58 PM PST by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: Mollypitcher1
Mollypitcher1: "Blah blah blah completely ignoring the FACT that when the Constitution was ratified, certain southern states were assured they could withdraw should their sovereignty be challenged."

Regardless of how often you repeat it, that's still mythology, not fact.
And you yourself can prove it by producing the document you claim exists making such a promise.

Take your time looking for it, I'll wait...

Mollypitcher1: "This was NOT in the 1860’s as you have inferred.
The Constitution was signed in 1787 and did not take effect until March 4, 1789.
1860’s were a long time later."

Right, got that, so Lincoln himself never made such a promise.
But who then, pay tell, did?

And while we're at it, what "challenge", exactly, existed in November 1860 against, say, South Carolina's "sovereignty"?

420 posted on 02/18/2018 6:38:31 PM PST by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective...)
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