[BroJoeK]

Bulwyf: "I don’t know what to tell you, you’ve either got some excellent rose coloured glasses on, or you don’t know history.
Too many Hollywood movies then?"

But Bull Snipe has that point exactly right, so what exactly is your problem, FRiend?

[Bulwyf]

My problem to go back to the start is the civil war was about centralizing power in DC. The propagandists of the day made it about slavery, but it wasn’t. You can cherry pick quotes all day, but at the end of it all, state’s rights went straight downhill after that.

You fast forward to today, and look at the federal behemoth now. That was all born in 1865.

That is the basis of my problem. To talk about it further would require an actual meeting. There’s too many different points and ramifications from that to type about.