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To: DiogenesLamp; DoodleDawg
DiogenesLamp quoting Dickens: "Every reasonable creature may know, if willing, that the North hates the Negro..."

Totally false, but what is true is that Dickens himself hated the North and loved the South.
So Dickens' report on the Civil War should no more be taken as gospel than, say, a Nancy Pelosi report on "Dreamer" legislation.


364 posted on 02/17/2018 12:11:39 PM PST by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective...)
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To: BroJoeK
Dickens was influenced by Thomas Carlyle, who hated the abuses of industrial society, but believed in a more authoritarian way of government. I'm not saying Dickens followed Carlyle in everything, but he may have subconsciously picked up some of Carlyle's political attitudes along with Carlyle's moralistic fervor.

Also, it was common for the English to admire the more deferential Southern culture than the brasher, more individualistic, "pushy" Northern culture. Though Dickens had been poor, he liked the comfortable middle class environment he'd entered and picked up some of their gentry ways.

Finally, just about everybody in England or America back then would be considered "racist" by today's standards. Whether or not Britons protested against American slavery, they had their own attitudes about the Irish, the Indians, the Africans, and the Chinese. It would be hard to find anybody who didn't.

Anyway, Dickens wasn't the best judge or commentator when it came to American matters.

366 posted on 02/17/2018 12:23:46 PM PST by x
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To: BroJoeK
Totally false, but what is true is that Dickens himself hated the North and loved the South.

You should read Dicken's castigation of the Southerners who owned slaves. He is quite vicious to them. You do know that Dickens was himself an abolitionist?

He had no sympathy for slave owners, he abhorred slavery. He was just telling the truth. The Squabble between the North and South was over who was going to collect and spend all that slave produced money.

462 posted on 02/19/2018 2:37:36 PM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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