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To: DoodleDawg
LOL! Looks like He didn't come down on your side during the rebellion.

Well first of all, it wasn't "My side", because my family wasn't even here when all of this was happening, and second of all, it was the founders that said this was a right given by God, not me.

God let the Israelites live in slavery for a number of years, so i'm not going to second guess his reasons for doing what he does, or allowing what he allows.

How much of an advantage did Great Britain have over the colonies?

England had about 6.5 Million people in 1776, and the US had about 2.5 Million, so it was only 2 to 1 odds, with the Ocean serving as a serious impediment for their command and control.

Likewise King George III was not so insane as to kill 750,000 people to get his own way. He decided to stop the fighting after about 15,000.

The South had a far harder fight than did the Colonists. Given that the Colonists had established the new paradigm of independence being a right, the South shouldn't have had to fight for it at all.

261 posted on 02/13/2018 12:36:55 PM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DiogenesLamp
Likewise King George III was not so insane as to kill 750,000 people to get his own way. He decided to stop the fighting after about 15,000.

If Jefferson Davis had only been as wise as King George.

263 posted on 02/13/2018 12:44:29 PM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: DiogenesLamp; DoodleDawg; rockrr; x; OIFVeteran
DiogenesLamp: "England had about 6.5 Million people in 1776, and the US had about 2.5 Million, so it was only 2 to 1 odds, with the Ocean serving as a serious impediment for their command and control.
Likewise King George III was not so insane as to kill 750,000 people to get his own way.
He decided to stop the fighting after about 15,000."

Curiously enough, it turns out the basic math for comparing the US Revolutionary War, Civil War and today is pretty simple: Revolutionary War numbers times 10 equals Civil War equivalents and Civil War times 10 equals today's equivalents.
So, Revolutionary War total Americans served = 260,000 equivalent to 2.6 million in the Civil War and 26 million today.
Actual total Civil War service was about 3 million North & South, so the two wars were roughly equivalent in numbers of Americans who served.

Total British, allies & loyalists, including navy served = 290,000 which would be 2.9 million Civil War era, a vastly greater force than either side, however 60% of those were the British navy.
If we just look at British land forces, the total was 120,000 equivalent to 1.2 million Civil War, or roughly the size of Confederate Army served.

Total Revolutionary War deaths, both sides were ~130,000 equivalent to 1.3 million Civil War and 13 million today.
Of those, about 80,000 were British, allies & loyalist soldiers' deaths, equivalent in the Civil War to 800,000.
Many of those were British navy and not all died in the American theater of war.
Patriot soldier deaths totaled roughly 50,000 equivalent to 500,000 Civil War deaths.

Point is: compared to the populations of their day, Revolutionary War losses were in no way less than Civil War deaths, wounded & missing.
They were simply horrendous, far greater than any Americans have experienced since.

DiogenesLamp: "The South had a far harder fight than did the Colonists.
Given that the Colonists had established the new paradigm of independence being a right, the South shouldn't have had to fight for it at all."

And they may not have, except they started & declared war on the United States and that sealed their fate.

361 posted on 02/17/2018 11:35:22 AM PST by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective...)
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