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1 posted on 01/09/2018 7:42:25 PM PST by Pinkbell
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Politics is the art of the possible.

President Trump is going to get the best deal for America he can. Neither side is going to get everything they want; we’re going to have as close to a sane immigration policy as we can possibly have given the political damage already done.

If we try to have the Perfect, we’ll end up with nothing.

Just my .02


2 posted on 01/09/2018 7:44:57 PM PST by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca, deport all illegals, abolish the DEA, IRS and ATF.)
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This is a third rail. Trump’s accomplishments are significant but the tax cut and end of the mandate aside many seem like they aren’t as obvious. But amnesty or renewed DACA would be both easy to understand and blatantly obvious.


3 posted on 01/09/2018 7:46:01 PM PST by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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Could Trump Risk His Base With the Wrong Immigration Deal?

This is the same article they wrote back in early November, only it was called "Could Trump Risk His Base With the Wrong Tax Plan? back then.
4 posted on 01/09/2018 7:46:23 PM PST by JoSixChip (Repeal and replace the gopE.)
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The government will never honor their end of a deal. No Deal. Deport.


5 posted on 01/09/2018 7:46:27 PM PST by samadams2000 (Someone important make......The Call!)
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He didn’t win by many votes. Under no circumstances will he win over any Hillary voters. Therefore he can’t lose any of his previous voters which will undoubtedly happen with any amnesty deal.

Don’t know his plan but unless it’s to lose 2020 I hope he has something up his sleeve.


6 posted on 01/09/2018 7:50:18 PM PST by bramps (It's the Islam, stupid!)
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Nope!


7 posted on 01/09/2018 7:51:42 PM PST by deweyfrank (Nobody's Perfect)
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NO risk.

The real Trump base never stops fighting. To drop Trump over a media driven panic pie is to speed dial oneself onto all fours in an assist to mount Marxists right into the saddle.

Trump trolled Yeb! today, with his own remark about a “love” path, or whatever. High larious!

TRUMP *always* said during his campaign that Congress needed to act. The man knows where the legislation action has to happen. DACA needs to end and will.

Will every ILLEGAL college age student be deported?
H&// “NO”. But those OBAMA era illegals hiding out as a DACA college student are SO out of here.


8 posted on 01/09/2018 7:52:48 PM PST by RitaOK (Viva Christo Rey! Public education & academia= the farm team for more Marxists coming, infinitum.)
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Trump is on thin ice here. The very thing that was his election promise was immigration. The GOP will implode if he renigs on this.


9 posted on 01/09/2018 7:52:52 PM PST by Altura Ct.
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Yes.

Yes.

Yes.

Trump needs to act, to bring back manufacturing jobs to America.

Trump needs to BUILD THE WALL.

Trump needs to start moving, on both of these critical issues.

Now.


11 posted on 01/09/2018 7:56:16 PM PST by cba123 ( Toi la nguoi My. Toi bay gio o Viet Nam.)
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I think the minimum Trump can settle for in exchange for legalizing the 800,000 or so DACAs is the $10 billion for the wall and an end to chain migration and the visa lottery.

If he can’t at least get that, then he better say no deal, or he will lose significant support among those who put him in office.

Didn’t like some of the things said at today’s meeting, but we’ll just have to wait and see what develops.


13 posted on 01/09/2018 8:01:29 PM PST by Will88
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Could Trump Risk His Base With the Wrong Immigration Deal?

With the wrong deal? Yes. But I'll wait to see what the deal actually is. I heard all kinds of hysteria when Trump met with Pelosi and Schumer a few months ago on this topic - Trump didn't get rolled then and made it clear that any DACA deal would have to also end chain migration and fund the border wall. I expect him to hang tough on these points, and I'd love to see mandatory E-Verify to dry up the economic incentive for illegals and protect American jobs for Americans.
15 posted on 01/09/2018 8:04:46 PM PST by AnotherUnixGeek
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I’m with Trump.


16 posted on 01/09/2018 8:06:04 PM PST by GCFADG (Pardon me.)
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YES!


17 posted on 01/09/2018 8:07:05 PM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here of Citizen Parents-Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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1. The Wall

2. Visa entry/exit tracking system

3. People who come over illegally should not be caught and released into the interior but should be immediately deported.

4. End of sanctuary cities

5. End of benefits to illegals

6. End of chain migration

7. End of visa lottery

8. E-Verify

9. End of birthright citizenship

Get all of this and strictly limit DACA amnesty to only those already enrolled and that is a winning deal.

Every bill introduced so far greatly expands eligibility and it will be more like 3-4 million.


19 posted on 01/09/2018 8:12:37 PM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here of Citizen Parents-Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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I’m apprehensive, and if even smells of potential amnesty, I will be very very disappointed. Unfortunately, I’ve been disappointed by every president in my life time. Reagan gave us the first amnesty, with a promise of border security, which never came about. Every since then it’s been one betrayal after another by both parties.


20 posted on 01/09/2018 8:13:28 PM PST by euram
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A doctor tells the patient that he has good news and bad news...

The good news is that they can save the patients leg and the fix the broken arm.

The bad news is that the heart is failing and the cost of replacing it cannot be justified.

However, the patient should be satisfied that it can walk and pick it's nose for a while...

So...Is Dr Trump getting ready to allow the American dream turn into a terminal nightmare?

21 posted on 01/09/2018 8:18:48 PM PST by SuperLuminal (Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
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He is losing his base already.
You are so correct when you say you are cooling about retaining DACA recipients. They will mostly be destroyers of American culture.

I have watched the radicalization of second and third generation Mexican Americans and legal and illegal immigrants with support from big money that wants to transform America into an unrecognizable country from the one that existed for most of its history.

And the DACA kids arrogance and disruptive behaviors you describe are exactly what is being encouraged by the radicalizers.


23 posted on 01/09/2018 8:28:40 PM PST by amihow
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San Francisco judge rules against Trump administration on rescinding DACA
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/01/10/judge-rules-against-trump-administration-on-rescinding-daca.html


25 posted on 01/09/2018 8:32:29 PM PST by familyop ("...you're the son of a thousand fathers..." -Tuco, "The Good, the Bad and the Ugly")
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President Trump gained many voters before today. Finally, shock and awe worth seeing. The tax reform will ensure conservative gains. He's strong on defense. He's done his best to fulfill his promises.

On the negotiations regarding immigration and the wall, he'll do better than any other president has done in the face of a reluctant Congress.

The world doesn't revolve around liberal states for now, and everyone knows it.


27 posted on 01/09/2018 8:40:01 PM PST by familyop ("...you're the son of a thousand fathers..." -Tuco, "The Good, the Bad and the Ugly")
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All of those are nice, except they wont be enforced at some of the state and local levels.

Better way-EVERY SINGLE DAM place of business that gets caught with illegals working at their facilities get to pay about a 6 thousand dollar fine, per illegal, and 80% of that goes to the local arresting agency. Then, that business gets to pay for all the deportation fees.

Wanna see the states give up on their idea of sanctuary states?

28 posted on 01/09/2018 8:46:56 PM PST by crz
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