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Could Trump Risk His Base With the Wrong Immigration Deal?
Donald Trump For President Blog ^ | January 9, 2017 | Pinkbell

Posted on 01/09/2018 7:42:25 PM PST by Pinkbell

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To: JoSixChip

Nope,I have not seen the bill and neither has Trump, but he is willing to sign what comes across his desk.


41 posted on 01/09/2018 9:24:19 PM PST by ThankYouFreeRepublic (Philippines, expat, taxes)
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To: Golden Eagle

Trump said today to the congressional turncoats, after DACA, it’s a short trip to comprehensive immigration reform. Send me a bill, and “I’ll take the heat.”

WTF? Comprehensive immigration reform = amnesty. Not what you campaigned on last year, Donald. A sure-fire way to lose the House this November and lose re-election in 2020.

Surely he’s smart enough to realize this would be an unmitigated disaster for him and his party.


42 posted on 01/09/2018 9:24:26 PM PST by july4thfreedomfoundation (SCHLONGED: How Donald Trump Beat My Lying, Marxist Ass and Went On to Win the November Election. HRC)
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To: Pinkbell

Giving amnesty to these wet dreamers and their extended family members makes my vote totally worthless. The ‘RATS’ wets have me outgunned.


43 posted on 01/09/2018 9:27:58 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (2017 - The year the liberals' "sexual revolution" strikes back!)
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To: Golden Eagle

They’ll hold the line. Legislation doesn’t get to the floor without their consent. Yeah sign anything that gets through Congress controlled by his party. There’s enough conservatives in the House to make sure they get a good deal. It’s ‘rope a dope’ in play, and the Dems are the Dopes.


44 posted on 01/09/2018 9:29:08 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: Pinkbell
Democrats are afraid of Trump's base.

Trump's will use us as a bargaining chip, a threat, a promise he'll protect the snowflakes from us etc. etc etc etc. It's fine with me... he's fighting for America - for us... He'll get the best deal he can get. Have faith.

45 posted on 01/09/2018 9:31:30 PM PST by GOPJ (Intelligence services coup failed. Robert Hanssen (American traitor) to get new roommates soon.)
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To: Red Steel

Hope you’re right, Red Steel. We all do.

But, I have to be honest. I’m tired of the feigning, rope-a-dope, head fakes and 9-D chess.

He won for, I’ll say, a few reasons. The BIGGEST being the Immigration issue.

He said he would end DACA and DAPA, on Day 1....didn’t happen
He said they would have to go home and come back in the right.....hasn’t happened

I know there’s more to it and it isn’t that easy. But, as we learn more and more about this program and those in it, we’re not talking about the kid who came here as a child or was born here, and ended up becoming a cop, fireman, Marine, Paratrooper, Doctor, Nurse or teacher, or whatever the hell they decided to do.

We’re talking about 800,000, 3rd worlder’s that hate out country and want to bring over their entire families to take root, vote democrat and continue to destroy the US. Pure and simple. Find me a neighborhood that they’ve moved into that they made better.


46 posted on 01/09/2018 9:37:19 PM PST by qaz123
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To: bramps
Under no circumstances will [President Trump] win over any Hillary voters.

That's just patently false. The tax cuts and the jobs are going to push many Democrats into the ranks of Trump supporters. Many Americans—even Democrats—are slowly but surely waking up from the absurd propaganda they've been indoctrinated with—propaganda which more and more simply does not comport with the actual facts.

Look, for example, at how the Democrats were lying about the tax cuts harming the middle class—and how those lies started being exposed almost from the very moment the bill was signed into law by the President!

If the President simply follows through with his #MAGA and #DrainTheSwamp policies, he will get more support from Democrats and Independents. Quite frankly, there are simply not enough abject idiots who will continue believing the absurd lies of the extreme delusional Left—lies which are simply too ludicrous to fool the People for an extended period of time.

More and more of the People see the mainstream Media as a joke, and since the Media is part and parcel of the Democrat party, this means that only the extremists will be left eventually to watch CNN, MSNBC, and their ilk.

Most thinking Americans will wake up from the Democrat lies and join in the process of making America great again and draining the Swamp—something an overwhelming majority of them want to see happen.

Honestly, you're giving the loony Left too much credit. Their propaganda is simply too ridiculous this time around—indeed, its outlandish nature is the main reason that Hillary lost the election in the first place...

47 posted on 01/09/2018 9:40:55 PM PST by sargon ("If the President doesn't drain the Swamp, the Swamp will drain the President.")
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To: BeauBo

Did not know that stat. They do not consider themselves American, but rather Mexican.


48 posted on 01/09/2018 9:51:37 PM PST by amihow
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To: sargon

You sure give those libtards alot of credit.

They won’t change at all and they never do.


49 posted on 01/09/2018 9:55:37 PM PST by eyedigress ((Old storhhm chaser from the west))
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To: Altura Ct.

We didn’t vote for the GOP, we voted for ‘the Donald’. We know who the GOPe are, the coming legislation will out them and they can be primaried and replaced for the general.

I fully expect a governemt shutdown. President Trump has given the DNC and GOPe the same rope given the PLA in Israel. He has offered them the ‘Safe State Immigration Solution’ and promised to sign it. Israel also did this, note that everything Arafat wanted was granted and he walked away. The DNC and GOPe will do the same.

The gov WILL shutdown, get on your phones, write letters, send emails (I too, must get on the official record). Only a HUGE outpouring of support for Our President will force the Congress of the United States of America to act in accordance with their sworn oath of office.

I know from personal experience that one’s stance on principle cannot be shaken, but one’s stance based upon “feelings or popularity, perks, pull, power, narcissism” will wilt in the flames of an enraged and informed electorate. Let these elected officials KNOW that illegal is illegal and we expect them to forward Our President a bill respectful of the beliefs of a nation (we, the people) of LAWS.

Rats scurry as do roaches when the light is shown. Let us shine the light of Liberty upon them and ensure we will endure ANY length of government shutdown until the Congress lives up to their sacred oath of office. They will be remembered forever as the Constitutional Congress of the age or the congress of guilt and shame. They are a puffed up lot but their biggest fear is always that of a ball player that is cut before they wish to go, those that stroke their egos will “lose their number” the moment they are gone.

They fear becoming the next Hillary no relevancy, out of sight out of mind and good riddance.


50 posted on 01/09/2018 9:55:54 PM PST by Billyv (Freedom isn't Free! Get off the sidelines!)
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation
WTF? Comprehensive immigration reform = amnesty. Not what you campaigned on last year, Donald. A sure-fire way to lose the House this November and lose re-election in 2020.

Not necessarily...Trump didn't say he would accept their version of immigration reform...He says they will immediately start to negotiate immigration reform...

51 posted on 01/09/2018 10:00:36 PM PST by Iscool
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To: Pinkbell

Start contacting your Senators & Representatives! Tell them what you want to see in an immigration bill.

Build the wall!


52 posted on 01/09/2018 10:02:58 PM PST by Lopeover ( The 2016 Election is about allegiance to the United States!)
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To: Red Steel
There’s enough conservatives in the House to make sure they get a good deal.

But there aren't in the Senate...They may end up with a Stalemate...

53 posted on 01/09/2018 10:03:57 PM PST by Iscool
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To: Iscool

Yes I covered stalemate or no DACA deal in post 38.


54 posted on 01/09/2018 10:08:53 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: RedStateRocker

You’re right. After all, Reagan compromised and later got most of what he wanted. Oh, wait. No, he didn’t. And we’ve paid for it for thirty-plus years now.


55 posted on 01/09/2018 10:10:45 PM PST by Rastus
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To: amihow

I have a friend in Texas, who is a Spanish speaker (bi-lingual), and knows a few families with DACA kids. He points to examples that he knows of individuals with STEM degrees and good jobs (he travels in a relatively affluent circle).

Some of them are worth keeping, economically. Perhaps half are underachievers or problematic, worth kicking back. I’d like to see a screening, based on merit.

Even among the meritorious segment of the DACA Mexicans though, I doubt there would be many Republican voters.


56 posted on 01/09/2018 10:16:40 PM PST by BeauBo
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To: RedStateRocker

.02 worth .005

Daca Adult Invaders are already being deported.

Why give up good negotiating position?

Democrats lose, so give them what they want?
LOSERS!


57 posted on 01/09/2018 10:31:12 PM PST by TheNext
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To: BeauBo

Your friend’s knowledge of those kids must be limited to a few. Wealthy Mexicans buy into legality here with $500,000 investment in. American business enterprise, bring the kids here on visas and they overstay.

Still an ugly disrespect for Americans and our country. Mexico needs them more than we.


58 posted on 01/09/2018 10:31:27 PM PST by amihow
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To: Pinkbell
30 Foot Wall porn:

No one is going to free climb this one.

30 foot walls will deter most humans - a fall from that height is fatal more often than not, and survivors are badly injured.


59 posted on 01/09/2018 10:42:38 PM PST by BeauBo
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To: amihow

Yes my friend just knew a few Mexican families, who had lived in the USA for many years, and none of those were poor Mexicans (not a random, or representative sample).

Coming in illegally had been as easy as crossing the street in some of their cases. They even had some girls who lived in the USA their whole lives, but went back to Mexico to have their babies (where it is much cheaper), because they had so little concern about ever needing citizenship or legal status to live in the US.

Quite a few houses in the (nice) Texas neighborhood had Mexican owners, who were seldom in the houses, as their businesses were in Mexico, and they spent most of their time there.


60 posted on 01/09/2018 10:57:09 PM PST by BeauBo
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