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To: Garth Tater
Not exactly a true statement Mom. Not all chemically induced altered states of perception are detrimental to us. Would you consider the ginseng I had in my tea this morning to be a toxin?

You do not have to consume a lethal dose in order to have symptoms of toxicity. And yes, I would consider ginseng to be a toxin. I used to drink ginseng tea myself, before I looked it up and read about its biochemical properties. I haven't touched it since.

As can non-toxic substances. Water for example. Your logic seems a bit weak with this statement Mom. Substances that can have toxic effects at one concentration can have beneficial effects at another and can have mixed effects at others. As with many things in life, there is the matter of balance to take into consideration. Do you consider all cannabinoids to be without beneficial effects when introduced into the body?

I guess you missed the sentence where I stated that I studied toxicology for my PhD. Thus, the toxicological saying that the dose makes the poison runs in my blood (in a purely figurative sense, of course).

As for alleged beneficial effects of any cannabinoid, I have yet to see any medical documentation of that. I've only been searching the medical literature for it since the 1990s. One of my research staff has an active cannabidiol research project right now, so I know from personal experience that researchers are still looking for those medical benefits.

BTW, have you figured out the full carbon cycle yet? Do you want me to pop back into that thread and explain about CO2 to you again?

138 posted on 11/13/2017 4:50:30 PM PST by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: exDemMom
"BTW, have you figured out the full carbon cycle yet? Do you want me to pop back into that thread and explain about CO2 to you again? "

You lost that one big-time Mom, but feel free to bump that thread back up and I'll be happy to point out your errors again for all of your Freeper fanbase to enjoy.

You do realize Mom that this is Free Republic and not your bureaucratic govt job where your PhD buys you any credibility, right? Your continuous over-statement of "facts" is constantly being called out around here and your reaction of ignoring the clear evidence of your misstatements followed up by your walls of text attempting to turn the conversation away from your clearly evident errors is being laughed at behind your back. We truly do enjoy your overbearing prideful statements Mom. Keep'em coming!
139 posted on 11/13/2017 5:08:33 PM PST by Garth Tater (Gone Galt and I ain't coming back.)
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To: exDemMom; Garth Tater; TheStickman
As for alleged beneficial effects of any cannabinoid, I have yet to see any medical documentation of that.

Then brace yourself:

"There is conclusive or substantial evidence that cannabis or cannabinoids are effective:
For the treatment of chronic pain in adults (cannabis) (4-1)
As antiemetics in the treatment of chemotherapy-induced nausea and vomiting (oral cannabinoids) (4-3)
For improving patient-reported multiple sclerosis spasticity symptoms (oral cannabinoids) (4-7a)

"There is moderate evidence that cannabis or cannabinoids are effective for:
Improving short-term sleep outcomes in individuals with sleep disturbance associated with obstructive sleep apnea syndrome, fibromyalgia, chronic pain, and multiple sclerosis (cannabinoids, primarily nabiximols) (4-19)"

- National Academies of Sciences, Engineering, and Medicine. 2017. The Health Effects of Cannabis and Cannabinoids: The Current State of Evidence and Recommendations for Research.
https://www.nap.edu/read/24625/chapter/6#128

145 posted on 11/14/2017 11:15:45 AM PST by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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