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Here’s how taxpayers are really paying for tax ‘cuts’
The Blaze ^ | Oct 30, 2017 | Dana Loesch

Posted on 10/31/2017 1:37:23 PM PDT by TBP

he long-awaited Republican tax reform plan may be doomed to failure before its unveiling due to a proposed elimination of certain tax-deductions.

What does the bill propose?

The bill proposes a lower tax rate for both individuals and businesses, but also suggests the cuts will be “paid for” by eliminating tax deductions such as the popular 401(k) deduction.

Dana’s take —

“You’re not paying for a cut, it’s your own money … maybe they could spend less,” said Dana to GOP Consultant John Hart, guest on today’s show. She added, “The next time — so help me — I hear another Republican say ‘we gotta pay for these people’s tax cuts,’ I’m gonna get mad. I don’t riot but I might go to The Gap and knock over a sweater set tower, I don’t know.”

“The question we have to ask ourselves is: do we want to use the tax to pick winners and losers?” said John. “Or should the tax code perhaps be used to raise the absolute minimum amount of revenue necessary to perform government’s essential functions?”

Watch the video clip above to get the whole scoop.


TOPICS: Government; Miscellaneous
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Great discussion of tax cuts and whether we should be picking winners and losers.
1 posted on 10/31/2017 1:37:23 PM PDT by TBP
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eliminating tax deductions such as the popular 401(k) deduction.


IF you really believe that...


2 posted on 10/31/2017 1:41:17 PM PDT by sparklite2 (I'm less interested in the rights I have than the liberties I can take.)
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I favor a constitutional amendment that repeals the income tax and institutes representative apportionment. Take last years spending, divide it down to a per Senator and per Representative charge. Then the federal government will bill the states for the taxes required.

Let each state figure out how best to meet it’s tax burden. As an enforcement, prohibit the states from spending any money until the federal tax bill is paid.


3 posted on 10/31/2017 1:41:32 PM PDT by taxcontrol (Stupid should hurt)
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how about a flat tax of ten percent for everyone, eliminate the IRS, start cutting feral gubmint.


4 posted on 10/31/2017 1:42:39 PM PDT by exnavy (America: love it or leave it.)
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Tax rate reductions increase revenue to the Federal Govt.
5 posted on 10/31/2017 1:44:55 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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All I know is from the rumors of what the tax reform are gonna entail, my taxes are gonna go up....and I’m in a red state too. Not good. It’s gonna be a tough sell to mark this as a win when 1/3rd of the middle class has their taxes go up....especially when gazillionaires taxes are going down.


6 posted on 10/31/2017 1:45:01 PM PDT by Sign Petition to Arrest Comey
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To: central_va

True. Coolidge’s, JFK’s, Reagan’s, Bush’s. But you can’t get taht through politicians’ thick (and empty) heads.


7 posted on 10/31/2017 1:45:49 PM PDT by TBP (Progressives lack compassion and tolerance. Their self-aggrandizement is all that matters.)
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To: sparklite2
Instead of posting an inanity...try to pay attention to the leaks.

There is serious talk about putting a cap on how much people can put into their 401(k)s and it's tiny; almost not worth it.

8 posted on 10/31/2017 1:46:19 PM PDT by nopardons
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Raising import tarrifs to 20% would genrate $500B in revenue and would repatriate industry like crazy. Why more than regulaton and tax reductions(which still needs to happen),


9 posted on 10/31/2017 1:46:34 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: taxcontrol

That’s essentially how they did it in the early days of the Republic.


10 posted on 10/31/2017 1:46:36 PM PDT by TBP (Progressives lack compassion and tolerance. Their self-aggrandizement is all that matters.)
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To: central_va

Yup, that is what they should do. Would be the equiv of their VAT taxes anyway they place on our goods.


11 posted on 10/31/2017 1:49:28 PM PDT by rb22982
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To: rb22982

Lou Dobbs tweeted Rino’s won tax battle


12 posted on 10/31/2017 1:51:19 PM PDT by scooby321 (o even lower)
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To: TBP

In all seriousness, the only way we are getting “significant” tax reform is through the barrel of a gun, which is highly unlikely to happen.

So I just see taxes as something that will change little for the good, but slowly change for the worse until said gun(s) come into play.


13 posted on 10/31/2017 1:53:37 PM PDT by robroys woman (So you're not confused, I'm male.)
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Tariffs funded the federal govt in the early days of the republic ALL THE WAY UNTIL 1913.

The Tariff Act of 1789

14 posted on 10/31/2017 1:53:56 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va

Tariffs and head taxes.


15 posted on 10/31/2017 1:56:28 PM PDT by TBP (Progressives lack compassion and tolerance. Their self-aggrandizement is all that matters.)
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Dana is a peacock. She basically makes her money on mood swings, bitchy dark sttitude, her chronic and hyper-bad temperament about everything, large or small... a walking temper tantrum over anything.

Stick to the beet juice and forget the economic advice.


16 posted on 10/31/2017 1:57:22 PM PDT by RitaOK (Viva Christo Rey! Public Education/Academia are the farm team for more Marxists coming... infinitum.)
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There were only a few poll taxes in the USA and no "head taxes".

United States

A poll tax, also known as head tax or capitation, is a tax levied as a fixed sum on every liable individual.[1]

Prior to the mid 20th century, a poll tax was implemented in some U.S. state and local jurisdictions and paying it was a pre-condition before one could exercise their right to vote. After this right was extended to all races by the ratification of the Fifteenth Amendment to the Constitution, many Southern states enacted poll tax laws as a means of restricting eligible voters; such laws often included a grandfather clause, which allowed any adult male whose father or grandfather had voted in a specific year prior to the abolition of slavery to vote without paying the tax. These laws, along with unfairly implemented literacy tests and extra-legal intimidation,[12] achieved the desired effect of disenfranchising African-Americans, as well as poor whites. Often in US discussions, the term poll tax is used to mean a tax that must be paid in order to vote, rather than a capitation tax simply. The Twenty-fourth Amendment, ratified in 1964, prohibits both Congress and the states from conditioning the right to vote on payment of a poll tax or other types of tax.

--Wiki

17 posted on 10/31/2017 2:01:25 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: sparklite2

Which, by the way, will end the 401K.

Not immediately, but within a few years. The first thing to be dropped will be matching funds by the employer (within MONTHS of this passing).

And after the Dems sweep the 2018 elections, the remainder will be seized.

IF the fools pass this tax hike.


18 posted on 10/31/2017 2:01:37 PM PDT by redgolum
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To: central_va

Head taxes as in apportionments made on the states, with teh states figuring out how to pay. Whenever the Feds needed more money.


19 posted on 10/31/2017 2:23:19 PM PDT by TBP (Progressives lack compassion and tolerance. Their self-aggrandizement is all that matters.)
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You don’t “pay” for Tax Rate Cuts.

You promote Economic Activity and Individual Freedom with Tax Rate Cuts.


20 posted on 10/31/2017 2:26:26 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative ( Democracy, two Wolves and one Sheep deciding what's for Dinner.Does the Government)
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