Posted on 09/11/2017 6:37:38 AM PDT by davikkm
The Alt-Right has been a term that has triggered the Left in America. There are many misconceptions about who is involved in this new and polarizing movement. But it is growing in mentions in the media because it is growing in prominence. However, there are many different sections of the Alt-Right and it is very different from an even newer movement called the New Right.
Ali A. Akbar in Medium wrote an enlightening piece recently differentiating the two and detailing who they really are.
The New Right is a populist and nationalist coalition of disgruntled Republicans, put off Democrats, contrarians, meme lovers and producers, and other disappointed conservatives. They are united by the belief that the status quo big government as usual policies pouring out of DC over recent decades has not worked. This group helped push President Trump over the finish line last November and has coalesced since his monumental victory over crooked Hillary Clinton.
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The alt-right are not conservatives.
They are collectivists with a strong racial component.
The alt right are national socialists, aka nazies, aka leftists.
As with any other words in the looking glass, it means...nothing. It wasn't intended to describe but to disparage. Attempting to define "alt-right" is a fool's errand.
I am not the new right, the old right, the alt right, or any right that the MSM or the silly pointy head talking faces decide to call me. I am just the Right! I am not the Left. I am an American. Not Irish American not Italian American, not Mexican America and not African American, just American! I am a veteran. A Patriotic Veteran. Stand for that Flag you whiney, rich, spoiled children! I am a Christian. No we are not fading away and we will not go gently into that good night! But you can call me a Nazi, a bigot an idiot, I have been called them all and much more. I am not offended. I am not a child. More to the point, I just don’t give a rats ass.
The alt right is a leftwing group. The division is between conservatives and globalists.
The truth. You can be a Patriot or a Globalist but you cannot be both.
Alt rights are not conservatives so there is no division. A recent survey showed Trump voters still support him at 98%, and Democrats at about 20%. This leaves PLENTY of room to pick up new rides on the Trump train which will happen.
There is no such thing as “alt-right”. It is another name for a command-and-control ideology, and its hierarchy and objectives are virtually indistinguishable from the most repressive of known and even applauded left-wing ideology.
Nazis were, first of all, “National Socialists”, with emphasis on “socialist”. Nationalism, in and of itself, is not necessarily a bad thing, but socialism relies on how much can be taken from those with enterprise to transfer to those with little initiative.
Islam falls into the same mindset as the “National Socialist German Workingmen’s Party” of the late and unlamented Third Reich, except they added the dimension of a supernatural deity that gave permission to impose all sorts of punitive rules and restrictions on the subjects. Neither ideology conferred a free citizenship on those under the influence of the regime that proclaimed itself as the “One Final Solution”.
Usually to the exclusion of the “unfit”.
Congratulations, gogeo! You have capsulized an idea that every American citizen needs to understand, and that is, the Progressive movement's ongoing Alinsky-like strategy of creating and/or redefining the language in order to isolate and target those whom they wish to disparage.
What fools they are! They may have been born, or have immigrated into, a nation whose basic documents of liberty were plain spoken and clear, recognizing that Creator-endowed liberty is for each individual, with not human-imposed classifying labels!
Only today, those who wear the Progressive label are being exposed for what they have been all along, and that is a collection of power seekers who wish to divide, exclude, and fool enough citizens so that those self-proclaimed Progressives can gain power and lead Americans back into the same state as that which existed prior to 1776.
Thomas Jefferson, only days before his death on July 4, 1826, explaining his inability to attend a gathering to celebrate the 50th Anniversary of the Declaration, wrote to Roger Weightman:"All eyes are opened, or opening, to the rights of man. The general spread of the light of science has already laid open to every view the palpable truth, that the mass of mankind has not been born with saddles on their backs, nor a favored few booted and spurred, ready to ride them legitimately, by the grace of god. These are grounds of hope for others. for ourselves, let the annual return of this day forever refresh our recollections of these rights, and an undiminished devotion to them.”(Jefferson, June 24, 1826, to Roger Weightman, End of Jefferson quotation)
Ask the Mensheviks (the minority) who lost one vote and got permanently tagged as the minority by Lenin.
Still, I'd stay away from alt-right and New Right labels.
Why not choose more descriptive and more accurate ways of labeling different groups?
One caution for conservatives - conservatism is correct and good, of course. But there is a whole generation which has been programmed to see conservatives as stuffy, impotent, backstabbing corruptocrats raping the government for their own gain. For that reason, they are hesitant to psychologically accept that they are conservatives, even as they feel pulled in that direction.
Because of the Bush crowd and RINO infestation, they are not far from the truth, or at least have enough justification to support their beliefs. Now they want to go right, or at least repel the left and the RINOs but they can’t see themselves as “traditional” Conservatives.
There are two groups there. The younger, new generation that pushed Trump over the line, and supported the campaign on places like Reddit and 4Chan. They don’t care about race much, and just oppose the corruption, and especially the radical, insane left.
Then there are the racialists, who want whites to oppose the race favoritism of minorities by getting whites to compete equally, and not cede to the racial minorities things like Affirmative action. Some are racists, but some just oppose the hypocrisy of minorities demanding state support and whites being expected to accept discrimination.
To the extent these groups oppose the left, and are not of the right, many see the title alt-right, and think that must be them, since they aren’t conservative.
Behind this, the old school, Hitler-loving national socialists, KKK, and so on are scrambling to claim the new movement as their own, and take leadership of it, for obvious reasons, and leftist who worked for Hillary and trying to infiltrate it, and make it look extreme.
The key for conservatives will be to give this new group its own identity for a while, and let them percolate in their anti-leftism until they mature into full traditional conservatives who oppose RINOism.
To that end, I would not assail the “Alt-right,” given it is not a clear cut, well defined group, and we should not offend those who may be on their way into our camp.
However having a “New Right” and maybe other “Rights” to psychologically house these guys until they complete their metamorphosis and mature into Anti-establishment TradCons is probably useful.
One thing Freepers need to keep in mind is Freeperdom is a bit of an echo chamber, in a very big internet. I want to comment here because the alt right and new right are important to understand for the conservative movement.
I’ve been hanging on the parts of the internet that would say they are alt-right and new-right for a while, they have been calling themselves that for a long time. Saying there is no alt-right, or that they are Nazis, to them would be like saying there are no Freepers, or Freepers are fascists to you.
The people who call themselves alt-right are mostly young guys in the early stages of becoming conservative. They know there is something wrong with the left. They know they don’t like those people, or the world they want. But they have been inculcated with academic propaganda saying conservatives are selfish, corrupt, impotent cronies enriching themselves, and they have seen our political leadership sell out to the left, like Boehner and Ryan, who honestly, fit the mold to a T.
The point is, they hate all the right things, and will end up good conservatives, if we keep the door open.
As for the racists, there are some in the white supremacist movement and national socialist movement who see these guys and think they can take it over. The media loves that, and plays it up. But already they are being derided as alt-white and not right. Vox Day, one of the leaders in the alt-right is calling them all LARPing Hitler wannabes who are not worthy of alliance.
So the movement, even though in the early stages of development, is basically heading toward conservatism by a process of elimination of everything else.
They are a powerful force. When the left shows up and hits a conservative with a bike lock, those guys are the one who dox the perpetrator and get him arrested. When the left attacks, they are the ones who come up with textbooks like SJWs Always Lie which who how the attack begins, and how to repel it in the office.
They are a fount of creativity which will change conservatism when they mature. National Review or American Spectator were just mindless plebes scratching each other’s back using cash and media mentions from an establishment that wanted to control the narrative and book sales.
Unlike that, the alt right is, for now, an intellectual meritocracy, where the smartest are rising. Mark my words, just as their memes probably helped Trump get an extra percent or two by affecting leftist motivation, in twenty years they will be affecting elections much more effectively.
Keep the door open to them, and don’t knock the names any more than you would want the leftist media telling everyone what a Freeper was. Whoever wants to come near the right or identify as right in some form should be welcomed, and guided on their journey to traditional conservatism.
The “alt-right” is a hazy term which also includes everybody who is not aligned with the Republican Establishment and the #NeverTrumpers.
Thank you for the education.
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