Communists make no pretense at private ownership of anything, and desire a one world Communist Utopia. This always winds up becoming a dictatorship because whoever is mean enough to deprive others of their property siezes it and keeps it for themselves. End result- totalitarian state. Fascism opposes the global aspect of communism with intense nationalism, makes a pretense at private property but due to a belief that only dictatorship can lead a nation, becomes a totalitarian state. Think of them both as failed attempts to create perfect societies, with the same result but different goals.
The difference, the Commies murdered millions more than the Nazis, but were smart enough to destroy most of the evidence, and hid the bodies that are now being discovered. If given power, they (Communists) would do it again, with no remorse. One party control means no limit to their power. The Nazis copied the camps from Russia. Ever notice there are maps showing the Nazi camps, but very few ever show the Stalin era camps. Judging from the scale of people forced to die in the USSR there isn’t enough room for all the dots. If anyone brings that up, the left immediately accuses you of being a Nazi sympathizer. Russia could never pay reparations for all those who were sent away to disappear, or just murdered on the spot. (They called voiced political dissent treason.) Both systems were based on terror to control the population. If you use terror and forced labor, you are not for freedom. Those who use terror will promise you milk and honey in life, but they only deliver fire and brimstone, and repeat the darkest part of history. Nazis and Communism, same crap in different wrapper but one comes in the larger King size package.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzhqO3iYlxk&feature=youtu.be&t=6595
YURI BEZMENOV:
No they serve purpose only [up] to the stage of destabilization of a nation. For example, your leftists in [the] United States; all these professors and all these beautiful civil rights defenders. They are instrumental in the process of the subversion; only to destabilize a nation. When the job is completed, they are not needed anymore. They know too much. Some of them, when they get disillusioned - when they see that Marxist-Leninist come to power. Obviously they get offended; they think that THEY will come to power. That will never happen, of course; they will be lined up against the wall and shot. But they may turn into the most bitter enemies of Marxist-Leninists when they come to power; and that's what happened in Nicaragua. You remember most of these former Marxist-Leninists were either put to prison or one of them split and now he's working against the SandinistasIt happened in Grenada when Maurice Bishop, he was already a Marxist - he was executed by the new Marxists who was more Marxist than this Marxist.Same happened in Afghanistan, when, uh, first there was Taraki he was killed by Amin, then Amin was killed by Karmal with the help of KGB.Same happened in Bangladesh where Mujibur Rahman, very pro-soviet leftist; was assassinated by his own Marxist-Leninist military comrades.It's the same pattern everywhere. The moment they serve their purpose, all the useful idiots are either executed entirely; all the idealistically minded Marxists. Or exiled, or put in prisons like in Cuba many former Marxists are in Cuba, and in prison.So basically America is Stuck, with demoralization; and unless, even if you start right now this minute; you start educating new generation of Americans - it will still take you 15 to 20 years to turn the tide of uh, ideological perception of reality; uh back to normalcy and patriotism.The result? The result you can see -- most of the people who graduated in the 60's, dropouts or half-baked intellectuals, are now occupying the positions of power in the government, civil service, business, mass media, and educational systems. You are stuck with them. You can't get rid of to them. They are contaminated. They are programmed to think and react to certain stimuli in a certain pattern [alluding to Pavlov]. You can not change their mind even if you expose them to authentic information.--KGB Defector Yuri Bezmenov--Soviet Subversion of the Free Press (Ideological subversion, Destabilization, CRISIS - and the KGB)[The Architects of Western Decline: A Study on the Frankfurt School and Cultural Marxism]
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In theory, it’s the ownership of the means of production. In practice, not so much. In theory, one is nationalist and the other internationalist. In practice, not so much. In theory, a focus on race instead of class, as someone already mentioned. In practice, both of them hated the Jews. In theory, both are murderous totalitarian states organized around the collective and leaning away from individualism at every turn. In practice, one won WWII, one lost.
I always think of a circle, with the Fascists going up the right side of the circle, and the Communists going up the left side. They each continue to rise on their own sides and eventually meet at the top -—and combine —— as one.
“Both socialism and fascism involve the issue of property rights. The right to property is the right of use and disposal. Observe the difference in those two theories: socialism negates private property rights altogether, and advocates the vesting of ownership and control in the community as a whole, i.e., in the state; fascism leaves ownership in the hands of private individuals, but transfers control of the property to the government.
***Ownership without control is a contradiction in terms:*** it means property, without the right to use it or to dispose of it. It means that the citizens retain the responsibility of holding property, without any of its advantages, while the government acquires all the advantages without any of the responsibility.
In this respect, socialism is the more honest of the two theories. I say more honest, not better because, in practice, there is no difference between them: both come from the same collectivist-statist principle, both negate individual rights and subordinate the individual to the collective, both deliver the livelihood and the lives of the citizens into the power of an omnipotent governmentand the differences between them are only a matter of time, degree, and superficial detail, such as the choice of slogans by which the rulers delude their enslaved subjects.”
The New Fascism: Rule by Consensus,
“Capitalism: The Unknown Ideal” Ayn Rand
The difference is you never hear anyone say, "Sure Nazism failed, but that's because "real" Nazism has never been tried before."
No difference but the name. Millions die either way.
The democrat party with the Clintons and obama and Soros etc are willing to follow with the corrupt news media providing cover.
“The answer is that there isn’t much of a difference at all. Just different ‘flavors’ really.”
Yes, yes, yes!
I am so tired of cookie-cutter conservatives playing the leftist game of differentiating between the various flavors, as though it really makes a difference.
It is the Left that always seeks to proliferate new names for its various flavors, to disguise what they all have in common, and to confuse the ignorant with the extreme-left/extreme-right false dichotomy:
Totalitarianism is totalitarianism.
Death by a thousand cuts or death by one great slash is still bloody premature death by a sharp-edged weapon wielded by an evil entity.
Erik von Kuehnelt-Leddihn exposes these lies on Leftism in superb fashion.