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H-1B visa applicants being diverted to O visa: US Senator
The Economic Times ^ | July 20, 2017 | The Press Trust of India

Posted on 07/20/2017 10:12:24 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

A top American Senator today alleged that potential H-1B applicants are being advised to apply for an O visa instead of the numerically capped H-1B visas intended for highly-skilled workers to bypass legal restrictions on employment visas.

While H-1B visa is for foreign guest workers with high skilled capabilities, O visa programme, is intended for use by those who have extraordinary abilities...

(Excerpt) Read more at economictimes.indiatimes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: h1b; immigration; ovisa; visas
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To: DIRTYSECRET
Those from Mexico work like mules. Gotta take care of their families.

If welfare is not an option, then yes you have to work hard.

Once a citizen, and welfare IS an option, expect the work ethic to change.

21 posted on 07/20/2017 11:15:07 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Big government is attractive to those who think that THEY will be in control of it.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Extraordinary skill?

Like bomb-making, benefits scamming, infiltrating the DNC, identify theft...


22 posted on 07/20/2017 11:16:00 AM PDT by subterfuge (Build the damn wall...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

O visa is the genius visa. I you won a Nobel Prize, the U.S. Companies are very conservative in it’s usage. A lot more people could probably get in on it.


23 posted on 07/20/2017 11:20:20 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: proxy_user

I doubt any O visa holders are getting less than $50k/year. First of all, it wouldn’t make sense for the company to spend $20k to get that kind of worker. Second, people who have those kind of accomplishments can make a lot. Even college professors with O Visas makes that. There are less than 25k O Visa holders in the entire country.


24 posted on 07/20/2017 11:32:26 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: TexasGunLover
We haven’t had Americans apply for IT jobs in Dallas in a decade... we can’t even find HB1’s anymore... Too few Americans are getting STEM degrees...

I bet if you raise the salary enough you will have plenty of citizen applicants.

25 posted on 07/20/2017 11:35:20 AM PDT by stig
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To: TexasGunLover

I can’t find a job with Post Grad in Mathematics and 20+ yrs of IT experience with patents and in latest technology. I am US Citizen.

There are atleast dozens of ex co-workers (US citizens) are looking for job. Even in Dallas my friends can’t find a job.


26 posted on 07/20/2017 12:04:49 PM PDT by jennychase
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To: nickcarraway

When I came to US, I came with O visa. Lot of requirements, Publish papers, patents, High degree etc.


27 posted on 07/20/2017 12:06:12 PM PDT by jennychase
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To: jennychase

That’s interesting, because most times I see they want more from an O Visa. Can you share what level degree you have?


28 posted on 07/20/2017 12:14:06 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: butlerweave

O visa = Obama visa


29 posted on 07/20/2017 12:41:08 PM PDT by 353FMG
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To: nickcarraway

I am Post Graduate in Mathematics with Operation Research. Diploma in Business Management. Publish Papers in ORMS and ACM. Have Patents. Mentioned in Computer World magazine etc.


30 posted on 07/20/2017 12:50:11 PM PDT by jennychase
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To: DIRTYSECRET

H-1B visas are for employment in white collar high tech jobs not day laborers you buffoon. Nobody that obtains a degree in STEM is lazy. Not possible.


31 posted on 07/20/2017 12:58:25 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: TexasGunLover

Wages should be through the roof. They are not.....


32 posted on 07/20/2017 12:59:03 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: TheNext

What? M-Visa is for vocational studies.


33 posted on 07/20/2017 12:59:29 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: hecticskeptic
Directly from the Immigration website:

The O-1 nonimmigrant visa is for the individual who possesses extraordinary ability in the sciences, arts, education, business, or athletics, or who has a demonstrated record of extraordinary achievement in the motion picture or television industry and has been recognized nationally or internationally for those achievements. The O nonimmigrant classification is commonly referred to as:

O-1A: individuals with an extraordinary ability in the sciences, education, business, or athletics (not including the arts, motion pictures or television industry)

O-1B: individuals with an extraordinary ability in the arts or extraordinary achievement in motion picture or television industry

O-2: individuals who will accompany an O-1, artist or athlete, to assist in a specific event or performance. For an O-1A, the O-2’s assistance must be an “integral part” of the O-1A’s activity. For an O-1B, the O-2’s assistance must be “essential” to the completion of the O-1B’s production. The O-2 worker has critical skills and experience with the O-1 that cannot be readily performed by a U.S. worker and which are essential to the successful performance of the O-1

O-3: individuals who are the spouse or children of O-1’s and O-2’s

General Eligibility Criteria

To qualify for an O-1 visa, the beneficiary must demonstrate extraordinary ability by sustained national or international acclaim and must be coming temporarily to the United States to continue work in the area of extraordinary ability.

Extraordinary ability in the fields of science, education, business or athletics means a level of expertise indicating that the person is one of the small percentage who has risen to the very top of the field of endeavor.

Extraordinary ability in the field of arts means distinction. Distinction means a high level of achievement in the field of the arts evidenced by a degree of skill and recognition substantially above that ordinarily encountered to the extent that a person described as prominent is renowned, leading, or well-known in the field of arts.

To qualify for an O-1 visa in the motion picture or television industry, the beneficiary must demonstrate extraordinary achievement evidenced by a degree of skill and recognition significantly above that ordinarily encountered to the extent the person is recognized as outstanding, notable or leading in the motion picture and/or television field.

Again, not for the run-of-the-mill IT worker. H-1B applicants should not qualify for O-1A visas, so they should not be 'diverted' to O visas because the H-1B visas have reached their caps.

34 posted on 07/20/2017 1:07:50 PM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: bgill

Or, we the destructionists keep pointing out how to best abuse the system so we can shut it all down, piece by piece, as the destructionists keep flailing around trying to find the next way to abuse the system.

Imo, it’s rather nice of the scumbags to announce the next exploit so we can properly aim in on target.


35 posted on 07/20/2017 1:13:44 PM PDT by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I have yet to find anyone coming from India who’s skills were considered “extraordinary”


36 posted on 07/20/2017 1:25:31 PM PDT by Zathras
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To: nickcarraway

I said $50K a month - that’s $600K a year.


37 posted on 07/20/2017 2:02:31 PM PDT by proxy_user
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To: central_va
Wages should be through the roof. They are not.....

That just means the company doesn't consider the job role all that valuable - very common in IT disciplines, these days. If they can find somebody cheap and young or an H1B to do it, fine - but they don't feel overpaying hoary, old experts in a discipline that likely isn't the company's core competency really buys them anything.

In most firms, IT has failed to make the case to the business side that it is worth the money it wants.

38 posted on 07/20/2017 2:36:53 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL]-[GALT]-[DELETE])
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To: Yo-Yo
The statistics on how many are issued. They have gone way up on O-Visa's in the past few years.
Meaning qualifications for that type of visa likely came down?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/O_visa#Statistics
39 posted on 07/20/2017 2:44:17 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Some are not savvy enough to know how to game the system.

Some are highly skilled at gaming the system.
Ability to game the system is the only skill that is needed.

Under Trump, are ICE agents still taking bribes as they were under all previous presidents at least since the 1960’s?


40 posted on 07/20/2017 3:16:01 PM PDT by spintreebob
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