Posted on 06/21/2017 6:56:25 PM PDT by Helicondelta
President Donald Trump confirmed during his Iowa rally Wednesday that he is considering building a border wall with solar panels.
A source told The Daily Caller earlier this month that Trump raised the idea of solar panels during a meeting with congressional leaders. (RELATED: Trump Proposed Solar Panel Covered Border Wall)
During Wednesday’s rally, Trump promised his supporters that he was still going to build a wall on the southern border to prevent illegal immigration and drug peddling.
“And yes, we will build the wall,” he said. “We’ve already started planning–it will be built.”
“And I’ll give you an idea that nobody has heard about yet,” Trump teased. “We’re talking about the southern border. Lots of sun, lots of heat. We’re thinking about building the wall as a solar wall.”
Trump argued the energy created by the solar panels could help the wall pay for itself
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How about a solar powered electric fence. ZAPPPP!!!
I would think that it’s pretty easy to break an exposed solar panel. Seems like it would make more sense to have the solar panels located well behind the wall and just run underground power cables to the wall. seems like it would make sense to have a back up power source too. just in case.
just get the WALL BUILT NOW.
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That’s the important part. Solar maybe feasible in some section close to cities
but out in the deserted areas transmission cost would have to be assessed.
He sure needs to make sure the system is reliable if he considers that. I worked in a new government building that had solar panels that were supposed to provide most of the power for the building. Problem was when first tested in June; they only put out a fraction of the power they were supposed to as an average. Worse yet by the time we had moved into the new building the solar system did not work at all and the company had gone out of business. The solution was to rely totally on the power company, and smile when anyone said how wonderful it was that the building was powered by solar.
I would bet they would only be on our side of the border, but the whole fence/wall is actually on our side of the border- it is not right on the border.
No doubt though if someone gets hurt trespassing we of course will be responsible. The libs will make sure of that.
Same principle: Play stupid games; win stupid prizes.
I don’t think so. The government wall would be quite a fortress powered by solar. Getting to the panels would be near impossible.
Imagine if you were allowed to design it.
It’s not like a panel on a house.
WALL THERMO PIPE PROPOSAL
Leveraging thermodynamics into the wall would begin with hollow piping throughout the miles long concrete wall. The wall attracts heat. The internal pipes are heated. A heat transfer fluid running throughout its length would draw and store energy.
FLUID IS LIQUID
The downfall is that thermodynamics requires a hot and cold difference, and an infinite heat sink, such as a lake. The greater the difference, the more efficient is the system, and the more useful work out of the scheme.
FLUID IS GAS
That leads to a more doable approach. When the heat differential is between cold nights and warm days, an efficiency can be achieved. As the day warms up, the gas compresses which stores potential energy. The compressed gas would generate electricity.
The capacity is tremendous, over hundreds of miles times a large cross section of internal pipes. So the wall would store much energy.
During the evening or night time, the fluid cold air would replenish the pipes.
ALTERNATE ENERGY STORAGE
An alternative approach would support the solar arrays along the wall, by storing its energy as compressed air in the wall’s internal pipes. During off hours of the sun, when no solar energy is available at nightime, the compressed air can continue to provide energy. It can doubly store windmill generated energy, which also is intermittent.
This would be a historical first, that is, the storing of an alternate energy source of power; solar or wind. This would solve the interruption problem that sun and wind intermittently go away and come back, along with the energy. That means you can dry your clothes any time of the day or night.
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Brilliant. Good way to prevent it being taken down. Consider the border an off limit Conservation Easement. Let businesses buy the easements or exchange them in exchange
Too easy for the panels to get bullet holes in them. Target practice from within Mexico facing northward will quickly render them worthless.
Just build it.
Send the goddamn bill to Mexico.
If they refuse to pay, confiscate their assets, and put those new 15000 IRS employees to good use.
I do have some experience in XC-NA inverters.
The solar needed doesn’t need to be on the wall.
It just provides the power. Many folks have a picture in their mind of a wall of panels. Well, get rid of that.
It would be a series of small systems that feed the wall
needed for surveillance power. They would be 3000 feet away from the wall. That’s all.
Works for me! :-)
Solar panels get extremely HOT. This is a great way to keep Mexicans from getting anywhere near our border. LOL They find ways to graffiti the hell out of it though.
I would be all for using that for sections near populated areas. In remote areas every time they test modern technology as part of border security it fails. The main issue is in remote areas getting anyone to work on that stuff is next to impossible and the cost is so high the work doesn’t get done, no one wants it to come out of their budget. Technology is not good at continuing to work without maintenance. Sections of the border are 3-4 hours or more from a population center that has people skilled enough to work on technical things. This is why I was against the virtual fence or similar suggestions. They may be great in populated areas but not feasible for remote areas. Arizona, New Mexico, and Texas have miles and miles of remote border that is not near populated areas or not populated enough to have tech people of any sort.
Where I live there are sections of the border that are 5 or more hours from a city. When people do come out to service those areas the work day is done or nearly done when they arrive and there is no where for them to stay the night because closest motels are 2-3 hours away.
The composite is based on an ultra-high molecular weight polyethylene fiber (UHMWPE) produced by DSM Dyneema, The Netherlands, and branded as Dyneema, said to be the world's strongest fiber. It replaces aluminum normally used for portable solar panels, which does not provide ballistic protection. IDG says this is the first time that solar panels have been given such a high level of ballistic protection. Panels made in Dyneema also weigh around 20% less than aluminum panels of the same thickness.
What do you think our brothers to the south will do to those pretty panels? I think they will throw big a$$ rocks and chucks of concrete thur em. It will be a boondoggle, high tech panels vs low tech rocks, who do you think will win?
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