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To: CharlesOConnell

Typically, on a daily basis....things like this don’t occur. So when they do...there is a necessity to fly in a team which look at all data, interview people as to what they were doing, and establish a minute-by-minute report. It’ll be at least ten days before you start to hear what transpired.

Somewhere on that bridge...someone who was supposed to be paying attention to various conditions, simply screwed up or some massive system failure occurred. It’s going to be hard to blame the captain because he was in his bunk and one of the folks actually injured. He may end taking the fall for this for incompetent people running the ship, or for a system failure which was already known.


2 posted on 06/19/2017 5:29:22 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: pepsionice

Get real.

This was NO ‘collision’.

This was a deliberate RAMMING. Now, take it from there........


3 posted on 06/19/2017 5:35:34 AM PDT by Flintlock (The ballot box STOLEN, our soapbox taken away--the BULLET BOX is left to us.)
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To: pepsionice

Sadly, the captain, regardless of where he was when the incident occurred or how much actual fault is his for the incident, is responsible for the ship and in the end will be relieved of duty.


9 posted on 06/19/2017 5:50:37 AM PDT by PJBankard
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To: pepsionice

They almost always fall back on “command climate” in order to nail the captain.


16 posted on 06/19/2017 6:40:50 AM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: pepsionice; All
Typically, on a daily basis....things like this don’t occur.

Not to be rude, but this is a very clueless statement. I actually did a triple take...

Accidents happen all time in the military. All the time. You only hear about the ones that will make for good ratings.

When I was on the John F. Kennedy we missed a collision by 3 feet one. I watched four sailors get washed overboard from a giant wave. Three guys cut in half when an arresting gear wire broke. My division officer was killed when he flew into the ocean at 400 knots in an F14.

I was personally was blown off the flight deck of the Kennedy.

Guys sucked down jet intakes and run over by jets. We were averaging about 1 death every month. And serious injuries daily.

I was on the USS Independence when it caught fire in '83. I'm the one that reported the fire. It burned up a third of the ship and we ended up in dry dock for 6 months.

Oh, and I personally watched a helicopter lose tail rotation in the north Atlantic and take the whole crew into the ocean not a half a mile from the bow of the carrier.

My last duty assignment was an aide to the Commanding Office of Naval Operations Base, Norfolk. Part of my job was to pick up the secret and eyes only communications that all base CO's around the world get every day. These include all the threats and issues that happening around the world. I used to read them because I had clearance.

The incident reports were nearly an inch thick every day. Stuff that you will never hear about in the news. Ships hitting mines, etc...

LOL! This stuff happens every day.

The reason you were allowed to know about this is because it involved a foreign ship and there was the possibility of a foreign news service reporting it first. The Navy department obviously wanted to get out in front of the story.


17 posted on 06/19/2017 8:25:46 AM PDT by StormPrepper
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