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Trump wants NASA to send humans to Mars pronto — by his second term ‘at worst’
The Washington Post ^ | April 24, 2017 | Joel Achenbach

Posted on 04/24/2017 2:33:12 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

What we are reporting here isn't fake news. But it doesn't feel exactly like real news, either. It's in that foggy realm of Trump news in which everything is slightly ambiguous and wobbly and internally inconsistent and almost certainly improvisational and not actually grounded in what you could call “government policy.” What happened was: Trump called the International Space Station and talked to astronauts and, in passing, mentioned that he's going to send Americans to Mars, and soon, like really lickety-split.

Trump was marking the historic achievement of astronaut Peggy Whitson, the commander of the International Space Station, who set a record for most days in space by an American astronaut. (Also on the call from the Oval Office were Ivanka Trump, who spoke about the administration's efforts to encourage women and girls to get involved in STEM fields, and astronaut Kate Rubins.)

During the call, the president asked Whitson and fellow American astronaut Jack Fischer a question:

TRUMP: “Tell me: Mars, what do you see a timing for actually sending humans to Mars? Is there a schedule and when would you see that happening?”(continued)

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Government; Science
KEYWORDS: mars; space; trump
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To: mrsmith
Moon first- it’ll pay for itself.

And just how would that work? What on the moon would pay for going there?

81 posted on 04/24/2017 6:35:06 PM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: TexasGator
Probes have done it in less than 5 months.

No they haven't.

82 posted on 04/24/2017 6:36:30 PM PDT by Lazamataz (The "news" networks and papers are bitter, dangerous enemies of the American people.)
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To: TexasGator
But, supplies can be sent ahead of time to Mars and the space vehicles can be assembled in earth orbit negating the requirement of a single large rocket that must lift everything off the earth’s surface.

No they don't.

Not unless you involve that wonderful scientific organization, Los Zetas.

Finer scientists you will not fine.

83 posted on 04/24/2017 6:38:07 PM PDT by Lazamataz (The "news" networks and papers are bitter, dangerous enemies of the American people.)
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To: from occupied ga
What on the moon would pay for going there?

Cheese.

And Pink Floyd albums on the dark side.

84 posted on 04/24/2017 6:39:01 PM PDT by Lazamataz (The "news" networks and papers are bitter, dangerous enemies of the American people.)
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To: cgbg
As one of the earlier posters said, folks are going to get killed trying to do this stuff.

Folks got killed getting into orbit and to the moon.

Killz happenz.

85 posted on 04/24/2017 6:40:15 PM PDT by Lazamataz (The "news" networks and papers are bitter, dangerous enemies of the American people.)
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To: Hot Tabasco
Look what the Wright brothers did for aviation.

I kind of remember reading that the Wright brothers were NOT funded by taxpayers. Who do you propose PAY for this bit of science fiction/fantasy?

86 posted on 04/24/2017 6:41:27 PM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: Lazamataz

Back then, getting to the moon was job #1, no matter the cost in human life. Now, we need our Safe Space.


87 posted on 04/24/2017 6:44:35 PM PDT by TADSLOS (Reset Underway!)
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To: TADSLOS

We have become a nation of labia.


88 posted on 04/24/2017 6:45:48 PM PDT by Lazamataz (The "news" networks and papers are bitter, dangerous enemies of the American people.)
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To: Hot Tabasco
The Wright Brothers created the aviation that first allowed the use of nuclear weapons.

Coincidence????!???!?!???!??!

89 posted on 04/24/2017 6:47:13 PM PDT by Lazamataz (The "news" networks and papers are bitter, dangerous enemies of the American people.)
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To: from occupied ga

What we build there.

The talk of finding value already there is silly, like the Spainiards’ view of the New World as just a gold mine.

The cost of geting anything out of Earth’s gravity well is huge, the cost of getting out of the Moon’s gravity well is negligible.
So as a market develops off Earth, the Moon is the far better place to supply it.

Of course if we’re all willing to kill our babies so we can stay on Earth, there will be no off-planet market.
Surprised that appeals to so many here.


90 posted on 04/24/2017 6:53:05 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: Lazamataz

Go away. This is not a gangster-support club.


91 posted on 04/24/2017 6:56:46 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: TexasGator

“...supplies can be sent ahead of time to Mars and the space vehicles can be assembled in earth orbit negating the requirement of a single large rocket that must lift everything off the earth’s surface.”

True that. It’s brought up in that video I linked to that NASA already is working on a lifting body to get the pieces parts to an assembly plant/launch platform in LEO. From LEO, launch fuel to Mars falls dramatically, to about 7 lbs per lb of payload.

But now you’re talking three separate engineering processes and three separate complex systems: the parts shuttle, the orbiting launch platform and the launch vehicle. And complexity rises at the square of the change in the number of processes involved.

To: hopespringseternal

“Actually, one mongo direct ascent rocket would be a colossally stupid way to do it and you know it (or you are too ignorant to offer an opinion.)

First of all, the Mars transport would be assembled in earth orbit using multiple small launches. Second, the far more efficient way to do this to use some version of a nuclear electric rocket. Once you crank up the specific impulse enough the mass fraction is much friendlier.”

We knew from the start that the STS had a limited lifespan. The shuttle served for 30 years and has been retired for six, so where is its replacement? We still have to hire a ride from the Soviets whenever we need to refuel one of our spy satellites.

I’m just not ignorant enough to believe that what passes for NASA these days can accomplish all three of those missions in the span of the next eight years.

And be sure to wake me when you’re ready to test your nuclear electric rocket.


92 posted on 04/24/2017 6:57:33 PM PDT by Paal Gulli
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To: Lazamataz

With themed headwear.


93 posted on 04/24/2017 7:01:27 PM PDT by TADSLOS (Reset Underway!)
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To: TexasGator; kiryandil
Go away. This is not a gangster-support club.

The Los Zetas Laboratory is the finest particle-accelerator and sub-quark-particle research group out there!

We know you hate Jesus Christ. Tell me you don't also hate science??!?!?

94 posted on 04/24/2017 7:04:13 PM PDT by Lazamataz (The "news" networks and papers are bitter, dangerous enemies of the American people.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Hmm, we were in a race with the Russians to see who would get to the Moon first. We won and that stopped the Rooskies and everyone else from even trying for almost another 50 years.

Given how important this "race" to Mars could be militarily and technologically, maybe we should do it, just to get everyone else to quit trying for another 50 years. Because we damned sure haven't shown any serious interest in doing it the last 50, of taking advantage of our advantage, which we've now almost completely lost. We're about as ready to mount a serious program that will get us to Mars and keep us there as my dog is to climb Mt. Everest.

95 posted on 04/24/2017 7:28:46 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: Lazamataz

better answer than the space kadets will come up with


96 posted on 04/24/2017 7:28:50 PM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: mrsmith
What we build there.

In other words going there will pay for itself by our going there which will pay for itself etc. Sorry does not compute.

The cost of geting anything out of Earth’s gravity well is huge

At least you understand that part of it. The rest of your answer makes no sense

97 posted on 04/24/2017 7:33:49 PM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: from occupied ga

Killing your babies so you can stay on Earth makes no sense to me.
‘Different strokes...’ as they say.


98 posted on 04/24/2017 7:42:31 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: Telepathic Intruder


Martian Downtown



Martian Burbs

99 posted on 04/24/2017 7:44:39 PM PDT by Clearly Right (Except when I'm driving, which I tend to do on the left side of the vehicle.)
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To: Clearly Right

LOL I like the second one. “Honey I’m home. Unseal the airlock please...”


100 posted on 04/24/2017 7:50:46 PM PDT by Telepathic Intruder
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