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To: huldah1776
wonder where all the compatible women went? Out the door with the Biblical view of marriage, women respect your husband and SUBMIT, men love your wives as Christ loves the church.

And it seems that most men want the *wives submit to your husbands* part but not the *love your wife as Christ loves the church* part.

A good marriage should not be one where the woman is simply grateful that he doesn't drink away the paycheck, chase other women, or beat her or the kids.

That's setting the bar pretty low.

However, loving your wife as Christ loved the church does not mean catering to her every whim and giving her everything she demands.

This Red Pill/MGTOW stuff is to men what feminism is to women.

Feminism arose from women who initially had enough of being treated like property and did not have their own right to own property or vote or be treated as EQUALS in society. But as with anything, it went over board into doing to men what they condemned the men for doing to them.

Reading up on MGTOW, and the Red Pill, is the EXACT same thing. A reaction to the inequity in society in the way men and women treat each other. Men are saying *Enough* to women's abuse of them just as women said *Enough* to men's abuse of them.

But it's interesting how when women do it, it's feminism and evil and destroying (fill in the blank) but when men do it, it's justified.

In reality, it's the same kind of movement borne of the same kinds of circumstances and situations. It's push back.

And as far as blaming all the women for this, that itself is a problem because it removes all the responsibility from men who allowed the situation to develop and perpetuate. It makes them helpless victims who can't stand up for themselves, and no woman is going to respect a man who doesn't have enough self-respect himself to act like a man but whine about hose it's everyone else's fault.

There's an excellent marriage series which may still be available somewhere online, called *How to have an emotionally healthy marriage* by Jimmy Evans and the long and short of it is to become an emotionally healthy adult.

Basically, take responsibility for your own actions.

373 posted on 04/24/2017 6:21:59 AM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: metmom

Christ gave His life for the church. No greater love than that.


379 posted on 04/24/2017 6:56:52 AM PDT by huldah1776 ( Vote Pro-life! Allow God to bless America before He avenges the death of the innocent.)
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To: metmom

“But it’s interesting how when women do it, it’s feminism and evil and destroying (fill in the blank) but when men do it, it’s justified.”

You don’t completely understand what you are talking about. The MGTOW approach is often simply staying away from women—not bedding them at all. There are some that do sleep around without commitment, but that is a definite minority.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Men_Going_Their_Own_Way

Feminists are either gay or heterosexual women who seek to dominate and use men—without exception.


451 posted on 04/24/2017 9:08:41 PM PDT by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pen up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticides, abortion, and euthanasia.")
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