Posted on 03/25/2017 6:45:56 AM PDT by CharlesOConnell
FREEBIRD!
I guess you can find quirks in any composition - to me Chopin is the most relaxing but I guess some will find fault with him as well.
I’m probably older than you and have been going to the opera probably longer than you. And I suppose you think only fags like ballet as well. It’s what makes FR so cultural, eye-roll.
“And I suppose you think only fags like ballet as well.”
Not at all!
I know most women with a taste for high art like it too.
The movie Amadeus was GARBAGE.
It was based on a totally false premise.
And Mozart, who had one of the great mentalities in the history of mankind, was depicted as a giggling idiot.
LOL! Was thinking the same.
AND I’m betting you have a genetically encoded aversion to Wagner opera.
Interesting. That post is not too very scholarly.
Symphony 41, Jupiter, was written because Constanze was sick and Mozart had to be at home, rather than out hunting for concert gigs or students.
There was no commission for that symphony. None. No reason to think it would ever be paid for.
He churned it out as one of the final 3 because he had nothing better to do. Business was bad in Vienna. A very expensive war with the Turks had started in February of 1788 and was sucking money away from pretty much everything. But he wrote it anyway. Narcissism among the poor composers? Nah, no evidence of it. His letters never really self congratulated beyond one note to Nannurl written as a young teen in which he added letters after his sign off at the bottom, letters that stood for the award the Pope had just given him.
If guys are going to indulge in analysis, they have to do more work.
Haydn, Beethoven, Schubert, Chopin, Schumann, Mendelssohn, Liszt, Tschaikowsky, Brahms preferred Mozart.
But of course they were not asses when it came to music.
Awesome.
I love Wagner. The only composer of opera whose work I don’t always appreciate is Puccini. It’s not because I’m a broad, stupid, ignorant, brilliant or otherwise. It’s just a question of taste. And, in this, we are all different.
LOL! Just skimming through, I felt I was reading the ramblings of a strangely God-oriented deconstructionist.
(I think the real self-abuse was my sticking through it...)
Lot of fine composers mentioned here but I think Vivaldi was one of the finest.
Both Bach and Handel studied Tony’s compositions.
Cool, daddy. Like, dig those crazy horns!
I didn’t get all that while listening to his music. This article didn’t help with music appreciation. It did tell me that the author of the article is a useless idiot, pissing into the wind.
Freebird!!!
In other words. Pop music. That’s why people like it.
“Dont you just love how many people are experts in fields they dont know anything about?”
There is a little sub-industry in music of generating text for concert brochures. People write this and that and use words like texture and sublime to suggest that what they are saying means anything whatsoever.
They have nothing to say, and get paid to say it.
You have to study maybe a minimum of 5 biographies from music scholars to know what was going on in Mozart’s brain. You need 5 because some biographers get things wrong, too.
Here are some Mozart items for folks:
Constanze Mozart was pregnant 6 times in less than 9 years of marriage. Only two of those kids lived past childhood, almost certainly because she often travelled with Wolfgang, leaving a baby at home with a paid wetnurse. This denied the child the mother’s antibodies and got them sick.
On the evening of the death of one of the children, Wolfgang composed a presto movement. Bouncy, happy music.
His brain was a music machine, segregated from his own emotion.
Wolfgang’s portrayal as an obscene, vulgar creature in the play Amadeus was based in solid research. His letters were filled with obscenities. But. Even deeper research reveals that his father intended to compile all his letters together and publish them as a book, to make money. Wolfgang objected. His defense against it was the obscenities.
As mentioned previously, if you can’t measure it, it’s not science. 620something published works. “Analysis” from people pointing at this or that phrase or key are entirely influenced by the prevalence of thought at the particular time they are pontificating. Piano Concerto 20 was worshipped in the 1800s. It’s not his “favorite” now. Probably will be again eventually.
It’s a little bit like sports. The numbers are about the only true measure you have of X vs Y. Differing film speeds from yesteryear don’t allow a true judgement of how fast one player was vs another or how much he had eaten that day and what he weighed. So all you have is their numbers.
41 symphonies, 27 piano concertos, died at age 35, numerous letters begging Michael Puchberg for this many ducats and this many florins of “loan”, on the same date, composing a sonata, so many bottles of ink, so many miles travelled to find work elsewhere.
This is better analysis than tripe about what something sounds like.
Why doesn’t the author write some better music?
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