Dana Loesch counters argument true conservatives must support women’s right to seek abortions

Monday morning on “The Glenn Beck Radio Program,” Dana Loesch called in to discuss the topic of abortion with Glenn Beck, Pat Gray, Stu Burguiere and Jeffy Fisher. Glenn began by joking that some women might want the right to abort children in their “terrible twos,” to which Dana responded, “Do other women have the right to abort women who whine too much?”

Glenn then asked Dana for her thoughts on abortion and the right to life provided in the Constitution. Dana replied, “The position that I’ve always held as a limited-government conservative is that it’s completely not hypocritical (to support limited government and oppose abortion) because you cannot, you simply cannot enjoy the right to liberty and the pursuit of happiness without first having the right to life.”

“We’re trying to go scientifically. In the scientific age, we’re trying to deny it’s a child by denying people the right to an ultrasound. It’s really crazy to see how anti-science we have become,” Glenn said.

Glenn pointed out that Americans simply have to decide whether or not a fetus is a human being with full legal protections. If this is indeed the case, Glenn argued, then no one can be granted the right to take the child’s life.

In 1981, the United States Congress conducted hearings to answer the question, “When does human life begin?” A group of internationally known scientists from around the world appeared before a Senate judiciary subcommittee (85). Here is what the U.S. Congress was told:

Harvard University Medical School’s Professor Micheline Matthews-Roth, Principal Research Associate, stated, “In biology and in medicine, it is an accepted fact that the life of any individual organism, reproducing by sexual reproduction, begins at conception” (85; cf. 81:18; 72:149).

Dr. Watson A. Bowes, Jr. of the University of Colorado Medical School testified that “the beginning of a single human life is, from a biological point of view, a simple and straightforward matter—the beginning is conception. This straightforward biological fact should not be distorted to serve sociological, political, or economic goals” (100:114).

Dr. Alfred Bongiovanni of the University of Pennsylvania Medical School noted: “The standard medical texts have long taught that human life begins at conception” (100:114).
He added: “I am no more prepared to say that these early stages represent an incomplete human being than I would be to say that the child prior to the dramatic effects of puberty . . . is not a human being. This is human life at every stage, albeit incomplete, until late adolescence” (100:114).

Dr. McCarthy De Mere, who is a practicing physician as well as a law professor at the University of Tennessee, testified: “The exact moment of the beginning [of] personhood and of the human body is at the moment of conception” (100:114).

World famous geneticist, Dr. Jerome Lejeune, Professor of Fundamental Genetics at the University of Descarte, Paris, France, declared: “. . . each individual has a very unique beginning, the moment of its conception” (85; cf. 81:18).

Dr. Lejeune also emphasized: “The human nature of the human being from conception to old age is not a metaphysical contention, it is plain experimental evidence” (85; cf. 72:149).

The chairman of the Department of Medical Genetics at the Mayo Clinic, Professor Hymie Gordon, testified, “By all the criteria of modern molecular biology, life is present from the moment of conception” (85; cf. 72:149).

He further emphasized: “. . . now we can say, unequivocally, that the question of when life begins. . . . is an established scientific fact. . . . it is an established fact that all life, including human life, begins at the moment of conception” (85; cf. 72:149; 81:18).

At that time the U.S. Senate proposed Senate Bill #158, called the “Human Life Bill.” These hearings which lasted 8 days, involving 57 witnesses, were conducted by Senator John East. This Senate report concluded:

Physicians, biologists, and other scientists agree that conception marks the beginning of the life of a human being — a being that is alive and is a member of the human species. There is overwhelming agreement on this point in countless medical, biological, and scientific writings. (85:7)

In 1981, only one scientist disagreed with the majority’s conclusion, and he did so on philosophical and not scientific grounds. In fact, abortion advocates, although invited to so, failed to produce even one expert witness who would specifically testify that life begins at any other point than conception (100:113).*

* A few held that life may begin at implantation. However, implantation, while important, in no way defines life.
Many other biologists and scientists agree that life begins at conception. All agree that there is no point of time or interval of time between conception and birth when the unborn is anything but human.

Landrum B. Shettles, M.D., Ph.D., is one of the twentieth century’s titans in the field of embryology and reproductive science. He was the first scientist to consistently achieve in vitro fertilization of human eggs. This prominent scientist emphasizes, “The zygote is human life” (100:40).

G. L. Flanagan observes, “From their first hour the human cells are distinctly human” (71:12 in 90).

Dr. Margaret Liley and Beth Day state: “A human life begins with a single cell” (71:17 in 91).

Axel Ingelman-Sundberg and Claes Wirsen assert that, “It is a living being from the moment of conception” (71:17 in 92).
World famous geneticist Theodosius Dobzhansky states: “A human begins his existence when a spermatozoon fertilizes an egg cell” (71:16 in 93).

Another leading scientist, Ashley Montagu, confesses, “Every human being starts off as a fertilized egg” (71:16 in 94).

Van Nostrand’s Scientific Encyclopedia states, “At the moment the sperm cell of the human male meets the ovum of the female and the union results in a fertilized ovum (zygote) a new [human] life has begun” (96:1087).

All of this evidence is why Professor Jerome Lejeune has stated: “If a fertilized egg is not by itself a full human being, it could never become a man, because something would have to be added to it, and we know that does not happen” (71:18). Biologically, no one can deny that we are human from conception.

In all stages of our growth, whatever the developing child is called, we are human. At birth humans are called babies. Inside the womb, humans are called “fetuses.” Before that, humans are called “embryos.” Before that, humans are planted on the uterine wall and called “blastocysts,” and before that, humans are called “zygotes.” Before that, only an individual sperm and egg existed, and not a human being.

Professor Roth of Harvard University Medical School has emphasized, “It is incorrect to say that the biological data cannot be decisive. . . . it is scientifically correct to say that an individual human life begins at conception, when the egg and sperm join to form the zygote, and that this developing human always is a member of our species in all stages of its life” (85; cf. 81:18; 72:149).

In conclusion, we agree with pioneer medical researcher, Landrum B. Shettles, M.D., Ph.D., that “. . . there is one fact that no one can deny: Human beings begin at conception” (24:16).

Again, let us stress that this is not a matter of religion, it is a matter of science. Scientists of every religious view and no religious view — agnostic, Jewish, Buddhist, atheist, Christian, Hindu, etc. — all agree that life begins at conception. This explains why, for example, the International Code of Medical Ethics asserts: “A doctor must always bear in mind the importance of preserving human life from the time of conception until death” (101:317).

This is also why the Declaration of Geneva holds physicians to the following: “I will maintain the utmost respect for human life from the time of conception; even under threat, I will not use my medical knowledge contrary to the laws of humanity” (101:317). These statements can be found in the World Medical Association Bulletin for January, 1950 (Vol. 2, p. 5) and April 1949 (Vol. 1, p. 22). In 1970, the World Medical Association again reaffirmed the Declaration of Geneva (101:317).

What difference does it make that human life begins at conception? The difference is this: If human life begins at conception, then abortion is the killing of a human life.
To deny this fact is scientifically impossible.*

*But to accept this fact and maintain that taking human life is not morally wrong is incredible. It is even reminiscent of Nazi Germany and yet today such arguments are increasingly accepted (e.g. 136:16).

FROM: When Does Life Begin And 39 Other Tough Questions About Abortion – John Ankerberg and John Weldon 1989

https://www.xinxii.com/gratis/122101rd1371492541.pdf

I like Dana but she was on the Cruz train and talked bad about Trump for nine months. Lost people. She is trying to make amends now, but who knows. She cut off her friends who were for Trump and won’t bring them back on.

Then I read this At The Gateway Pundit.
TGP’s Jim Hoft Offered Several Speaking Slots After #NeverTrumpers in St. Louis Boot Him From Pro-Trump Rally

Jim Hoft Feb 27th, 2017 7:51 am

Updates from Saturday’s are listed below–

But first here is this weekend’s post about getting kicked out of the Pro-Trump rally in St. Louis for being too Pro-Trump….
Never Trust a #NeverTrumper

On Thursday I was asked to speak at a Pro-Trump rally on March 4, 2017 at the Robert A. Young Federal Building in downtown St. Louis.
The rallies are being organized by “supposed” grassroots leaders in at least 60 cities across the US.
Breitbart News was first to report on the rallies.

The Gateway Pundit was an early supporter of Donald Trump. We took a lot of heat for it from GOP elites and Cruz supporters during the last election.

The Gateway Pundit broke several national news stories during the election that, unlike the national media, favored Donald Trump.
Since the election the liberal mainstream media has been at open war against The Gateway Pundit.
We were too effective in reporting the truth the liberal media ignored.

Last week when Gateway Pundit Washington DC correspondent Lucian Wintrich and I dared to attend a White House press briefing. It made headlines in hundreds of liberal media publications. If you google “gateway pundit white house press room” there are over 100,000 articles listed.

The far left media ridiculed our presence in their sacred chamber.

Unfortunately, liberals are not the only ones who hold a grudge.
The GOP elites and #NeverTrumpers were also defeated in the November election.

On Friday I received a text from the organizers of the local March 4 rally in St. Louis that I had been dis-invited to the event.
They dropped me from the line-up.

Local organizer Jen Ennenbach is a close friend with national #NeverTrump leader Dana Loesch.

Jen told the co-organizers to boot me from the speaking line-up. So on Friday the local activists wrote a text to tell me I could no longer speak at their rally. I guess I am too pro-Trump?

I reached out to some top St. Louis activists and friends to tell them this shocking news. They were as shocked as I was. Last night the rally organizers had a “sudden” change of heart and wrote me a text saying this:

Jim, I would love to have you speak at the rally on 3/4. I know that there has been some turmoil in the past few months, and because you and I are not really close, I intentionally did not play the roll of the peacemaker. I thought the entire point of even having a rally was bringing the fractured party back together.
Honestly, I think there were too many cooks in the kitchen scrambling to find speakers. I myself am guilty of that in reaching out to —- and —-.
Would you be willing to consider joining us?

Here’s my response:

No thanks.

Trump bashers who fought so desperately to stop Donald Trump from becoming president — even after he won the nomination — are now trying to hijack the Trump movement. Their first goal is to discredit and eliminate the devoted and successful Trump supporters. In the past I always took a backseat and kept my mouth shut to promote the conservative cause. Today I speak out to warn Trump supporters — the battle is still on.

The Never-Trumpers and leftists shared an agenda to take down Trump. I believe many of the Never Trumpers still hold on to that agenda and to bring down the people and voices who supported Donald Trump.

I won’t be their next victim.
That’s why I went public today.
They don’t care about the country, the party, their peers or Donald Trump.
They only care about their own selfish career and ideological purity.
No thanks. Count me out.

And since this story broke activists in Denver, Nashville, West St. Louis County, Central Missouri and others have invited me to attend and speak at their rallies.

Thank you to all of the Trump supporters out there who shared this post and sent their support.
I truly appreciate it.

UPDATE—- Add Oklahoma City to the list. Thank you!
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/02/update-tgps-jim-hoft-offered-several-speaking-slots-nevertrumpers-st-louis-boot-pro-trump-rally/

The link on Dana’s name leads to this:
On March 30, 2016 a group of self-righteous Ted Cruz supporters released a prepared statement demanding Donald Trump fire Campaign Manager Corey Lewandowski for the media hoax that he assaulted Michelle Fields by walking past her at a Trump event in Jupiter, Florida.

The group of “guilty until proven innocent” included S.E. Cupp, Mary Katharine Ham, Dana Loesch, Katie Pavlich and Meghan McCain.

These “conservatives” do not believe a person is innocent until proven guilty. Here’s a list that shows who these women support.
Via Brett MacDonald:
For the most part they are part of the #NeverTrump crowd.

On Wednesday night Politico reported that Donald Trump Campaign Manager Corey Lewandowski will not be charged for a hoax assault on reporter Michelle Fields.
She made it up.
Unfortunately, a lot of Cruz supporters stood with the hoaxer Fields.

It’s time for this crowd to apologize for attempting to destroy an innocent man.
It’s time to come clean.
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/04/apologize-now-16-cruz-supporting-female-reporters-wrong-trump-campaign-manager-fess/

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