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To: Boogieman
To: SubMareener
Evolution has a basic problem. It has no starting point.

The Judeo-Christian diety has no starting point. A shared problem...

18 posted on ‎2‎/‎12‎/‎2017‎ ‎5‎:‎18‎:‎53‎ ‎PM by Poison Pill
To: Poison Pill

Not exactly. The Jewish Sages identify the Ein Sof as the creator of the universe who is outside of space and time. Time did not start until the Ein Sof created the universe and manifested as Elohim, the three in one god head, that interacts with His creation. The first verse in the Bible can be translated as: “In the beginning [Ein Sof] created Elohim, the heavens and the earth.”

20 posted on ‎2‎/‎12‎/‎2017‎ ‎5‎:‎56‎:‎00‎ ‎PM by SubMareener (Save us from Quarterly Freepathons! Become a MONTHLY DONOR)
 
To: Poison Pill
The Judeo-Christian diety

You mean keeping kosher? ;-D

23 posted on ‎2‎/‎12‎/‎2017‎ ‎6‎:‎14‎:‎21‎ ‎PM by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
To: SubMareener
The Jewish Sages identify the Ein Sof as the creator of the universe who is outside of space and time. Time did not start until the Ein Sof created the universe and manifested as Elohim, the three in one god head

Hmmm......

Well, the Zohar is pretty far out there. I don't think 13th Century Jewish mysticism can really be considered cannonical in any broader sense of the Judeo-Christian traditian.

As far as the three part god-head goes, I'm pretty sure that's not Jewish.

25 posted on ‎2‎/‎12‎/‎2017‎ ‎6‎:‎30‎:‎23‎ ‎PM by Poison Pill
 
To: NobleFree
diety

You mean keeping kosher? ;-D

HA!!!

Oh, ya got me!

27 posted on ‎2‎/‎12‎/‎2017‎ ‎6‎:‎32‎:‎48‎ ‎PM by Poison Pill
To: SubMareener; Poison Pill; redleghunter; Springfield Reformer; kinsman redeemer; BlueDragon; ...
The first verse in the Bible can be translated as: “In the beginning [Ein Sof] created Elohim, the heavens and the earth.”

Which means that you still have a creator with no beginning, while this is contrary to such texts as,

Psalms 90:2: Before the mountains were brought forth, or ever thou hadst formed the earth and the world, even from everlasting to everlasting, thou art God.

35 posted on ‎2‎/‎12‎/‎2017‎ ‎10‎:‎43‎:‎40‎ ‎PM by daniel1212 ( Turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned and destitute sinner+ trust Him to save you, then follow Him!)
 
To: Poison Pill
The Judeo-Christian diety has no starting point

"In the beginning GOD...

50 posted on ‎2‎/‎13‎/‎2017‎ ‎6‎:‎22‎:‎20‎ ‎AM by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: Elsie
I don't think you're really following our conversation unless you believe god came into existence simultaneously with the creation of the world.
59 posted on 02/13/2017 8:47:54 AM PST by Poison Pill
 


75 posted on 02/15/2017 3:26:03 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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76 posted on 02/15/2017 3:32:16 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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