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To: marktwain

I OWN two KelTec weapons: A PMR-30 and a KSG. I consider both of them novelty items, especially the PMR-30. I still have yet to be able to load 30 rounds easily into a PMR-30 magazine without bending a case on a round after having them sit loaded for over a year with 25 rounds inserted.

The KSG hit the market with so many after the fact add ons and tricks and after market products, etc. it’s hard to think this is a go-to weapon, frankly. You can even see how awkward it is to use in the John Wicks movie with Keanu Reeves.

In my opinion, they are nice engineering designs, but very lacking on follow through and reliability.


2 posted on 01/22/2017 6:32:50 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Gaffer

Many say the Ruger LCP is a perfected Kel-Tec design.

I have heard quite a few say Kel-Tec innovates a design, then Ruger will make it reliable.

Maybe something like that will happen with the PMR 30 and KSB.


5 posted on 01/22/2017 6:50:59 AM PST by marktwain
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To: Gaffer

There have been some accidents involving their pump shotguns where shooters have gotten their pump hand in front of the muzzle.
I would fit some sort of guard to prevent that before I would use one of their pump guns.
That’s just me. I think their double barrel is cool.


12 posted on 01/22/2017 7:30:52 AM PST by Palio di Siena
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To: Gaffer

I have a PMR 30. Waited a year and a half on a waiting list at Impact for it. Turned out not to be a bad thing as they were having a tumbling problem which got corrected before mine came off the line.

To this day I cannot cram more than 25 rounds in either magazine. To avoid ff problems I only use CCI maxi mags.

The gun is lightweight, louder than a you know what and throws about a 12 inch muzzle flash. Its fun to shoot but I would not use it as a carry weapon. Its definitely a novelty gun. If things get real I would go to my Ruger P89.


21 posted on 01/22/2017 9:27:46 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Gaffer
In my opinion, they are nice engineering designs, but very lacking on follow through and reliability.

IMO, that statement succinctly summarizes Kel-Tec.

22 posted on 01/22/2017 10:14:27 AM PST by Obadiah
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