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Shot Show: Kel-Tec Still at Max Capacity for PMR 30
Gun Watch ^ | 19 January, 2017 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 01/22/2017 6:27:01 AM PST by marktwain


Making a reliable .22 magnum semi-auto has always been a challenge in the industry.  Doing so with a pistol is even more difficult.  Kel-Tec has had the most successful design with their PMR 30.  The PMR 30 has been a success for several years now.  Kel-Tec is running at top production capacity of a thousand a month out the door.  A lot of people like the idea of a 30 shot, lightweight, .22 magnum pistol.  Quite a few like the significant muzzle flash and blast.

Reports from industry insiders at the show are that most reliability problems with the PMR 30 are with magazines.  That is not surprising.  After ammunition, magazines are the most common source of problems with semi-auto pistols generally. Find a magazine or two that work with your PMR 30 and you are good to go.

The PMR 30 has a bigger sister, the CMR 30 carbine. It has been on the market a year.  It is popular, but Kel-Tec is still working up to producing a thousand a month. My understanding is that they have not hit that production point yet. Update: Toby Obermeit, Chief Engineer at Kel-Tec, says they are producing about 200 a week, and hope to double that number. The CMR 30 uses the same magazines that the PMR 30 does.

Kel-Tec also holds a patent for a short, pistol sized 33 round straight magazine for .22 long rifle.  .22 long rifle semi-auto design is well understood and simple compared to the .22 magnum.  If the market slows down with a Trump administration, and less angst about legislation, we may see a 33 rd .22 LR offered by Kel-Tec. 



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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Society
KEYWORDS: banglist; keltec; pmr30; shotshow
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To: Gaffer

I have a PMR 30. Waited a year and a half on a waiting list at Impact for it. Turned out not to be a bad thing as they were having a tumbling problem which got corrected before mine came off the line.

To this day I cannot cram more than 25 rounds in either magazine. To avoid ff problems I only use CCI maxi mags.

The gun is lightweight, louder than a you know what and throws about a 12 inch muzzle flash. Its fun to shoot but I would not use it as a carry weapon. Its definitely a novelty gun. If things get real I would go to my Ruger P89.


21 posted on 01/22/2017 9:27:46 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Gaffer
In my opinion, they are nice engineering designs, but very lacking on follow through and reliability.

IMO, that statement succinctly summarizes Kel-Tec.

22 posted on 01/22/2017 10:14:27 AM PST by Obadiah
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To: Gaffer

Yep. Smart move on your part. I was watching a you tube of a guy fast pumping a ksg - really scary how close his hand was coming to the muzzle.


23 posted on 01/22/2017 11:57:22 AM PST by Palio di Siena
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To: OKSooner

I recently purchased an Ruger SR22 and we love it. I also purchased a Ruger “take down” 10/22 - 22LR. Both are fun to shoot and compared to my other firearms, very inexpensive to shoot.


24 posted on 01/22/2017 2:24:24 PM PST by Gator113 (I use liberal tears in my milkshake ~DRAIN THE SWAMP~ ~ LOCK HER UP ~ ~DRAIN THE SWAMP~)
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To: Gator113

Yeah, those takedowns are cool too.


25 posted on 01/22/2017 2:58:42 PM PST by OKSooner (www.greatagain.gov <= Go here to put a note in the suggestion box!)
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